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I wonder if CIG ever asked Frontier if they would license Cobra to them.
But what would happen to Star Engine?
Citizens - Star Citizen on the Cobra engine would still be 10000x better than any other game ever.

More like if they had realised say two years into the project they have wrong tools....They are trying to fit FPS engine for entirely different game, and sad fact is that regardless of how much money they throw in, they'll basically need to rewrite whole thing from the start....Kind of like if IRL car designer chose to fit in sports car engine to tractor trailer truck....
I wonder if this was because Chris Roberts was too ***** to admit he was wrong or too stingy to liscence another engine. I think they bought a liscence for Cryengine by that point right?

I've never been on a server with less than 25% of pop so I don't know.
Even if you are solo on a server, every position/collision must be sent through the web at a limited tickrate instead of being instantly managed localy.
Is CIG competent enough to progress Star Citizen beyond pre-alpha/alpha?
Maybe the reason CIG had been stuck with server problems for 11 years is because, the way they're doing it is inefficient? Surely there must be a better way of sending info like that back and forth between client and server. Possibly something other game studios had already done in the 10 or so years Chris Roberts was out of the game industry?
 
But what would happen to Star Engine?
Citizens - Star Citizen on the Cobra engine would still be 10000x better than any other game ever.


I wonder if this was because Chris Roberts was too ***** to admit he was wrong or too stingy to liscence another engine. I think they bought a liscence for Cryengine by that point right?


Is CIG competent enough to progress Star Citizen beyond pre-alpha/alpha?
Maybe the reason CIG had been stuck with server problems for 11 years is because, the way they're doing it is inefficient? Surely there must be a better way of sending info like that back and forth between client and server. Possibly something other game studios had already done in the 10 or so years Chris Roberts was out of the game industry?
I think they were in a license litigation at that time with Crytec.
 
I wonder if this was because Chris Roberts was too ***** to admit he was wrong or too stingy to liscence another engine. I think they bought a liscence for Cryengine by that point right?
Insert "Why not both?" meme here.

The consensus from those who have worked with Chris Roberts is that he does not like being told he is wrong. In addition, his good friend and business partner Ortwin Freyermuth negotiated a free CryEngine game engine license from CryTeck. Ortwin just happened to be CryTeck's legal consul at the time, and also represented CryTech's interests at the time... which is apparently perfectly legal, though IMO utterly unethical.
 
I think they were in a license litigation at that time with Crytec.
That's what made me think it might be a liscencing thing. In that lawsuit there they were arguiong about liscencing for only one game but CIG are making two. Also the whole thing about exclusive use of Cryengine where Crytek was saying SC would only use Cryengine and I don'nt know what CIG's argument was.
 
his good friend and business partner Ortwin Freyermuth negotiated a free CryEngine game engine license from CryTeck. Ortwin just happened to be CryTeck's legal consul at the time, and also represented CryTech's interests at the time... which is apparently perfectly legal, though IMO utterly unethical.

i think it's ex-good friend unless the termination was a step forward based on the old adage that says "any kick in the behind is actually an impulse for a step forward."

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That's what made me think it might be a liscencing thing. In that lawsuit there they were arguiong about liscencing for only one game but CIG are making two. Also the whole thing about exclusive use of Cryengine where Crytek was saying SC would only use Cryengine and I don'nt know what CIG's argument was.
I believe Crytek dropped the two games complaint after they saw the real state of SQ 404. There was no second game. There is no second game. There will be no second game.
Any dev progressing in their work are proud and eager to show and tease. CIG has nothing to show for.
 
I believe Crytek dropped the two games complaint after they saw the real state of SQ 404. There was no second game. There is no second game. There will be no second game.
Any dev progressing in their work are proud and eager to show and tease. CIG has nothing to show for.

They 'paused' it more than anything, as it was probably the strongest remaining card in their pack of complaints. (Breach of contract etc). IE they said they wanted to hold off until the claim was 'ripe' etc.

But yep that whole 'CIG said beta soon, but these emails say different...' bit was comedy gold 😁

(And the whole thing became academic when they settled out of court. Or at least, became a matter for the accountants to sort out instead ;))
 
i think it's ex-good friend unless the termination was a step forward based on the old adage that says "any kick in the behind is actually an impulse for a step forward."

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Ortwin is still listed as a director for the main UK company, despite his removal from a clutch of others.

Interestingly a recent noisy marketing guy, ex of CIG parish, reckons he's retired though:

Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/16377ei/a_thought_i_just_had_regarding_the_cig_qa_layoffs/jy52e8h/?context=3


So it does seem like he's got his feet kicked up on the backseat, and will just enjoy any dividends that flow...
 
They 'paused' it more than anything, as it was probably the strongest remaining card in their pack of complaints. (Breach of contract etc). IE they said they wanted to hold off until the claim was 'ripe' etc.

But yep that whole 'CIG said beta soon, but these emails say different...' bit was comedy gold 😁

(And the whole thing became academic when they settled out of court. Or at least, became a matter for the accountants to sort out instead ;))
Just a reminder that CI won so hard that they paid millions to Crytek.
 
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