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fleet carrier jumps
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Yes I remember using those back in the day (50's and 60's when Scotland still had the best education system in the world), I can't remember what the correct term for them would have been, we just called them decimal points but they were those "middle dots", not periods. In secondary education I seem to remember we used periods and not the middle dot and of course in uni that was the case.
Thanks! The reason I ask is that I have a carrier that's low on fuel way out in the middle of nowhere that I'd like to bring back to the Bubble remotely, so I'm looking for the most efficient way to do it. I'm glad the most efficient fuel burn is also the most efficient time-wise (distance per jump). I know I won't make it all the way back, but the closer I can get it to me, the less travel I'll need to do to go out and manually refuel it via mining (oh the joy).
You know, there may be another way...
Remind me please, how long does it take to actually decommission a carrier? Now that I think about it, I might be further ahead to just decommission this carrier and buy a new one in the Bubble. IIRC it might take a couple of weeks before I get my refund for the carrier - is there a way to expedite this? Like a "Yes I'm sure I want to decommission, give me my money NOW" option?
try asking here:
forums.frontier.co.uk
Have a read through it, your questions may already have been answered.
You're only going to be able to move a carrier remotely with the fuel in it's tank. To transfer fuel from the hold (or refuel it any other way) someone will need to dock on the carrier.
Fleet Carrier FAQ
(Revised version from the Beta. FAQ ) Fdev Official Fleet Carrier FAQ https://customersupport.frontier.co.uk/hc/en-us/articles/4404350872210-How-do-Fleet-Carriers-work- Also worth checking out the in-game Codex section on FC as that explains a lot Buying a Carrier You can buy FC in these...
Have a read through it, your questions may already have been answered.
You're only going to be able to move a carrier remotely with the fuel in it's tank. To transfer fuel from the hold (or refuel it any other way) someone will need to dock on the carrier.
Yeah, that was the reason Fdev gave... I don't know about you, but I don't trust what they say further than I can throw Braben.
You're most likely right that people would have created 1 man squadrons just to be able to have a carrier. I'm guessing you didn't consider what would happen when that person left the squadron... I'm not that clever, and if I can see the issues with that I assume at least someone at Fdev did too.
Don't get me wrong; I like the fleet carries we have. I think they're great for groups, and I've made good use of them, especially the AXI's, over the years, and I think they were a good addition. But as a personal fleet carrier they are very poorly designed. And as I said in the last post; it took me all of 90 sec to come up with a bettet one.
Because they were never designed as a Personal Carrier, thought that was already made clear. The carrier was designed to remain persistent because if it was going to be squadron based it had to basically exist when different squad members logged on and off, so it couldn't be tied to a single account, that's why making it a personal carrier was indeed probably a bad idea, but you know, player demands and all, that's what everyone wanted. And yes it doesn't take long to come up with a better personal carrier because the FC we have at the moment isn't designed as a personal carrier, and that's been discussed endlessly for years, in fact ever since the carrier was released on the unsuspecting player base, you are a bit late to that discussion for sure and you are just bringing up all the same arguments we have been having for years, but that doesn't make any difference because you aren't one designing, programming and implementing it, FDEV are, and that opportunity is so far gone it's not worth considering, they aren't going to design, program and implement a different carrier, we have what we have and that's probably all we will ever get carrier wise.
WoW is a good example of a group based feature that ended up getting used for personal purpose: 1-person guilds purely for the bank. 1-person banking guilds became extremely popular. I remember I had several.
WoW also had a mechanism where if guild owner leaves for a long period of time, the guild would pass to the next rank in line. If nobody in line (ex: 1-person personal guild) it stayed with the owner.
I thought you got your answer?
Or you could plot a couple jumps and figure it out yourself?
You don't need to actually make the jump to see how much is consumed.
My carrier capacity is 19,765/25,000
3.79Ly jump uses 6 units tritium = 1.58 units/Ly
499.9Ly jump uses 119t tritium = 0.23 units/Ly
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Your question about decommissioning has several answers on the interweb. I would only trust from someone that recently decommissioned one and can answer the specific questions:
a) After the decommissioning request, how soon can I purchase a new carrier?
b) After the decommissioning request, how soon do I get my credits back?
The Elite Dangerous Wiki says:
This suggests if you make the request on Wednesday it will be inaccessible the next day. This article does not explicitly answer the two questions.
From reading lots of articles, it looks like if you remotely sell your fleet carrier:
Assumptions with no clear verification:
There is lots of contradictory old info. If anybody can verify this info with first hand experience that would be great.
- The voluntary decommissioning fee is 150 million credits
- You will be reimbursed ~4.5 billion for the carrier.
- You will lose the value of the optional modules (these could be sold in an admin system).
- You lose any tritium remaining in the carrier's tritium depot.
- I am not certain what happens to stuff in storage.
- Any ships and modules stored on the decommissioned carrier can be transferred anywhere for 0 credits. (I believe the Cmdr needs to be at the destination location to make the request.)
- The decommissioned state: this starts after the relevant Thursday maintenance downtime and lasts for possibly 2 months. This is the period where you can transfer ships and modules anywhere for free. You can no longer land on the carrier. [Edit: I wouldn't count on two months. There is lots of contradictory info. I think you want to empty your decommissioned carrier ASAP]
- The entire crew gets released into the cold void of space. If you get a new carrier you must assign a new crew.
Assumptions with no clear verification:
- I assume the credits in the fleet carrier bank get dumped into the cmdr's credit account upon entering the decommissioned state. Or does the cmdr need to do this in the following weeks? I don't know.
- I believe you get reimbursed AND can purchase a new carrier immediately upon entering the decommissioned state.
There is lots of contradictory old info. If anybody can verify this info with first hand experience that would be great.
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Thank you for finding and answering my second question. I'm still a bit confused regarding the overlap of getting my refund and new carrier with that of the much longer decommissioned sate. I probably missed this Thursday, but if I could buy a new carrier next Thursday, that would be plenty soon enough. If I have to wait two MONTHS, that's a different story. And I assume a single player can only own a single carrier, so wouldn't buying a new carrier automatically "release" the old?
Whereabouts? There might be someone in your vicinity that could deliver tritium.
I visited a DSSA carrier about a year ago. I think it was DSSA Gam Nine, belonged to @Factabulous . It was far away on the south-eastern side of the galaxy. I found their decommissioned carrier still sitting in a nearby system. It had the same name.
DSSA GAM Nine in orbit around a black hole. Pla Aick GA-A e1. March 13, 2023
Another DSSA GAM Nine in a nearby system in orbit around a star. Pla Aick GA-A e0. March 13, 2023
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Does that mean one person, in theory, could spam the galaxy with carriers by decommission the original, buying a new one, decommission that new one, buy another new one, rinse and repeat? I guess the Thursday decon day limits how many times you can do this, but still, that seems like a bit of a exploit.. I'm surprised that the new carrier doesn't immediately replace the old.
Where is your FC? I can travel there with my FC to bring enough Tritium. I could do that because I'm not interested in anything in the game right now, and I've barely played anything for the last 10 days or so.
And I still have some fuel left, so I'm sure I can get it closer, maybe halfway? I haven't done the calculations. I know that some months ago I moved it back to the Bubble in Legacy, and I needed to use my PS4 alts (which are docked on the carrier in T9s full of tritium) to refuel so it could make it all the way home. That trick won't work on Live.
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This kinda reminds me of the old days when this group called "The Fuel Rats" would go out and rescue ships that ran out of fuel. I wonder if they are still around.. And if they are, do they service fleet carriers?
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Indeed, it is.
That's why when I travel longer distances with carrier I usually use my friend as route plotter
Ok, it's not far away, I'm on the way, my first jump will start in 14 mins.
Why thank you very much!! Someday when you're in the Bubble, park by a station selling tritium and I'll return the favor!