Or better still....Keep it....In 12 months time when nearly all games are online only you may be glad you did ...who knows
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Or better still....Keep it....In 12 months time when nearly all games are online only you may be glad you did ...who knows
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That's why im kind of here......Im ok with it all but I do see the other side
I don't care about if it's online or offline, I won't support a game developer who cuts big parts of the game I payed for, just because they didn't like them, a month before release.
All games? Yeah right. I'm sure the control freaks of the gaming industry would love that, but I doubt it will happen.
No flaming Bog... But let us be realistic. They can't have it both ways. Either stick to your campaign promises (which are what compelled people to fund the project), or offer refunds to those who ask for it when you bail on those promises. Bail early if you have to, so you shed the people for whom the game you're now making isn't the game they want to fund/play. But you don't get to rattle off a list of stuff, each of which motivates different people to different degrees to decide to fund you, and then just ditch parts of that list at the end.
Do you think there would be 560 pages of posts if we were approached six months ago and were asked for input and given an option for a refund?
Nearly all games it says......Nearly all games....
And its that now really...with steam and consoles..
pledging that much based on one feature from a design plan when it was clear from the investment prospectus that it was subject to change? Forget the water, I've got a bridge I want to sell that guy.
Yeah, yeah, nearly. Please elaborate with specifics of this great number of games that require a constant online connection.
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Welcome to the era of fantastically inflated ego's and feelings of entitlement skipping hand in hand with some of the most self absorbed and incompetent generations in, well a long time. I mean the corruption and sheer short sightedness of generations past is mind blowing but at least impressive. These child people of today are not impressive.
I'm a bit peeved at some things FD has done including the false promises that feel like enticements to get $. Feels like EA up in here, but the reactions of these people are hilarious. Sad and pathetically hilarious. I've copied a ton to make a collage of self important vile spew to spread around.
To be fair they weren't really promises. Just enticing suggestions of what might be possible. They could have retextured the original Elite and run away laughing with the money. I'm sad that they didn't give this feature a go myself. My internet sucks and playing is not really something that I can do when I want. I guess I'll play when I have time and my connection works well enough to allow it.
Full disclosure, I threw a tenner in on Kickstarter, because that was all I could afford at the time, and caved in a few months ago when I was better off and plumped for it.
And in full disclosure, yeah I do, get why people are - quite understandably - ticked off, in fact bloody furious that the offline mode has been dropped. I chewed divots out of my desk when it turned out there were big chunks of Borderlands 2 I couldn't complete on my own, and I felt robbed. It wasn't mentioned explicitly before I bought it, and I wanted to chew all the meat off and suck the marrow out of the bone. Couldn't. Felt gypped. I know the feeling, I really do. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't get their refunds in a timely manner, if that's what they're dead set on.
But it *does* seem like there's a certain amount of flaming-torch-and-pitchfork, more in line of trashing the game completely rather than having a grump and getting your money back, which has been explicitly promised but I can't imagine happening overnight, because there's a ton of people suddenly throwing their flght gloves at Frontier and it takes time to sort it all out.
And in full disclosure, yeah I do, get why people are - quite understandably - ticked off, in fact bloody furious that the offline mode has been dropped. I chewed divots out of my desk when it turned out there were big chunks of Borderlands 2 I couldn't complete on my own, and I felt robbed. It wasn't mentioned explicitly before I bought it, and I wanted to chew all the meat off and suck the marrow out of the bone. Couldn't. Felt gypped. I know the feeling, I really do. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't get their refunds in a timely manner, if that's what they're dead set on.
But it *does* seem like there's a certain amount of flaming-torch-and-pitchfork, more in line of trashing the game completely rather than having a grump and getting your money back, which has been explicitly promised but I can't imagine happening overnight, because there's a ton of people suddenly throwing their flght gloves at Frontier and it takes time to sort it all out.
Wow, you must be happy that we didn't end up with an horse breeding simulator, if everything was up for change.
That was a quote from John Belushi's inspiring speech from the movie Animal House. He even referenced the actor's name and film name.
There is a certain amount of truth in that. Could it be, that people are finally sick and tired of being lied to by conmen? Fed up with companies long on promises but short on delivery? Maybe those people have had enough and are finally making a stand against those who try to dupe others out of their money with slick words and legal chicanery.
That's more or less what FDEV seems to be relying on in the vast majority of cases, combined with what looks like some seriously weasel word language about the purchase you make concerning the storefront (Technically beta purchases pay £50 for the beta and don't pay a thing for the game, they get the game as a freebie, that way it's not a pre-order and it allows FDEV to avoid the issue of cancellations). Combined with their near abusive use of their T's and C's to deny refunds in all but the most narrowly defined of cases is something that should be made public as well, because that is disgusting behaviour, I absolutely cannot stand by it.
Steam,Consoles,Androids....Elite Dangerous !!!
I would advocate for FD to just make offline work. It worked in the first alpha, the one with the missions, so it's not like they can't make it work again with effort. Why not promise it for a later release like they are doing for the FPS portion of the game, or planet landings, or etc? ED looks like it's going to be an awesome game. I would just like to be able to play it with no lag.
Plus we must also remember that, when it all boils down, they are consumers who've paid for a product and aren't getting 100%. Now, I don't know about other people, but when I pay for something I do expect that 100% and will take things back to a shop if it falls less than that. Some may say,"Well, you can't honestly expect 100%, be realistic." But the reality of that is I paid for 100% of the product, so I should get that.
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It's basic consumer rights, and all good companies know that the customer is king, because sooner or later, they do win, because it's likely they won't come back again and won't recommend the company's product to others. People have criticised those coming onto this thread to complain that they've lost offline play, calling them whiners and whingers. No, they're angry consumers. And that's something FD doesn't need right now, but they only have themselves to blame for it.
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