Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

But but Times have changed! Chris plays with the big boys now. They've got calendars and spreadsheets.
I see a possible future were something called Star Citizen 1.0 releases before 2028 and it might broadly fit into the genre of "space-themed first-person MMO", epic or otherwise. There would be promises that all the missing bits would be added in later feature updates and expansions under the strategic partnership with Big Publisher and Rich Tyrer.
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Viajero

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At one point Berks says that the ship translation motion (ref to the rotation planetary grid) that can be seen as he moves back and forth grids is proof of server meshing. It is not, it is proof of separate reference grids transition though. That is all. Change of server would probably require a bit more of under the hood evidence that the game can not really show there, other than an ID. Maybe the player list?

Has anyone tried to test this in Live? ;)

If there were noticeable overall system stability and performance improvements that could also be indeed a good symptom that multiple servers are sharing the load etc, alas at the moment things are even more borked than before.

To reiterate, the only thing that can be ascertained/verified in this kind of tests is the interface between reference grids that exist for different parts of the star system. But, from what other players are saying, those existed already before server meshing. The only actual "proof" that there is another server at the moment is that an ID code changes in the text log.

Back to what happens in the video the target players is invisible to Berks right? Then they go into trying to damage a ship engine, Berks can not seem to see hs buddy shooting anyways. And then the server(s) seem to crash and his buddy remains stuck 🤷‍♂️ .
 
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Yeah it's a shame the other player got disconnected / the server choked up just after that. They were just trying to check whether they saw damage to the engine in sync.

(I'm guessing that twitch he gets whenever he's near the boundary is just the minimal motion difference at the pole? It's always the same rotation nudge. The drift seen in the ship's server is always gently to the side etc)
 

Viajero

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Yeah, my point is that all those things Berks is showing is just reference grid related stuff that was already happening in Live. It is not proof of server meshing, just of separate reference grids. In fact some viewers were trying to point that out to him in chat.
 
I doubt they're faking it on the multiple server approach. The modern miracle of 'servers handing over authority' is something that they need to achieve within 2 decades ;)

But yeah most of what he's talking about is purely physics grid stuff as I understand it, and pre-exists. They'd just never hang out on that border normally. (It's also not a particularly great thing ;))
 

Viajero

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I doubt they're faking it on the multiple server approach. The modern miracle of 'servers handing over authority' is something that they need to achieve within 2 decades ;)

But yeah most of what he's talking about is purely physics grid stuff as I understand it, and pre-exists. They'd just never hang out on that border normally. (It's also not a particularly great thing ;))

For sure, there seems to be quiet a lot of anecdotal evidence of the multiple server approach. Most notably the extremely highted instability and crashes. What I mean is that, that approach, the "server handover" etc may be unrelated to, or simply not working in, some of those grid transitions tests we see. We have zero idea what CIG has done. All we can see so far is more crashes, instability and an ID change 🤷‍♂️ .
 
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Yeah, my point is that all those things Berks is showing is just reference grid related stuff that was already happening in Live. It is not proof of server meshing, just of separate reference grids. In fact some viewers were trying to point that out to him in chat.
It'd be easy if they knew where the boundaries are. There just never was one, just one server and a star system. If there are actually any boundaries.
But in space what's the point of that anyway? You wanna make huge bpundaries where everything can go wrong? Better to hide them.
 
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