Tencent don't seem to get a mention![]()
I bet they do in the boardroom
Tencent don't seem to get a mention![]()
Thanks. My rationale for the Open letter forum post title was to specifically address Frontier Developments first and the rest of the community second (the definition if you will). I guess my question would be, if it is un unwritten rule to not title open letters as such, what would I title it? What would the community suggest? What title might invite less derision? What is it about open letters that forum members find so boring?There's a long history of "Open Letters" on the forum such that most long time players see the title and immediately think, "Oh no, not again!" and skip straight past it. It might indeed be an "Open Letter" but putting that in the title almost guarantees 90% of players, and probably 100% of devs will just scroll straight past it. Also I didn't see any derision there, that's entirely your imagination, it was well meaning advice!
Thanks. My rationale for the Open letter post title was certainly not to speak on behalf of the community, only my squadron. We expect no special consideration, nor should I get any.Varonica covers part of it.
Another part is because open letters tend to have had an history of people speaking as though they are speaking for the whole community or expecting the devs to give them special consideration.
Basically, it evokes an eye-roll from veterans of the forums whenever they see the words "open letter to the devs", an immediate dismissal, and i suspect, from developer reps who read the forums as well.
You didn't know this, so nobody is deriding you for that, its just long term forum cynicism based on a long history of people writing "open letters".... none of which, as far as i know, have ever been acted upon by the developers.
Regarding your specific issue, you might get better results by reaching our directly to a community manager and discussing the situation directly with them.
Something more to the point such as Disappointment in Galnet lack of acknowledgment.Thanks. My rationale for the Open letter forum post title was to specifically address Frontier Developments first and the rest of the community second (the definition if you will). I guess my question would be, if it is un unwritten rule to not title open letters as such, what would I title it? What would the community suggest? What title might invite less derision? What is it about open letters that forum members find so boring?
I write a great number of angry rants about all sorts of things, then I go and have a drink or a bite to eat then come back and occasionally rewrite them but usually delete them I sent happy to have got it out of my system without embarrassing myself in public to my later regret.I’m actually happy with the feedback. I really don’t expect everyone to be interested in open letters to FDev (nor should they be).
As for the second post from Agony_Aunt (besides the full stop in the middle of their sentence that I will let slide on a casual forum), my primary grievance with these types of dismissive responses is they don’t offer anything of value; no explanation, suggestions or constructive feedback. To be honest, was there any point in replying? Is this just trolling? By replying are they actually invalidating their own argument?
Lastly, thank you all for your comments and feedback. I will take it on board. To be honest this was more of an angry rant on behalf of my squadron, rather than having any expectation of change. Purely venting on their behalf. Personally, I’m not too upset.
Hi, welcome to the forumsmy primary grievance with these types of dismissive responses is they don’t offer anything of value; no explanation, suggestions or constructive feedback. To be honest, was there any point in replying? Is this just trolling? By replying are they actually invalidating their own argument?
Something more to the point such as Disappointment in Galnet lack of acknowledgment.
It isn’t the boredom as such but the tendency to imply a greater and more universal degree of support for their ’rant’ than is justified.
I write a great number of angry rants about all sorts of things, then I go and have a drink or a bite to eat then come back and occasionally rewrite them but usually delete them I sent happy to have got it out of my system without embarrassing myself in public to my later regret.
I don't remember what year it was, maybe 3305, we lost Commander Thrust from Bradford and his friend due to nobody taking an open letter seriously. As a coping mechanism for the pain most have not yet been able to acknowledge in a healthy manner, all of those emotions are bottled up until another unsuspecting open letter comes along to take brunt of so much suppressed anger. Congratulations though to your Squadron, and thank you for your service to humanity.Why?
Thanks. My rationale for the Open letter post title was certainly not to speak on behalf of the community, only my squadron. We expect no special consideration, nor should I get any.
I get the impression that eye-rolling may be difficult to avoid, no matter the title.
As for the developers, I’m not sure how I would get their attention any other way.
Thanks for your feedback. I don’t expect any change, this is more just venting.
As for the second post from Agony_Aunt (besides the full stop in the middle of their sentence that I will let slide on a casual forum),
Wasn’t that the gloriously mild departure post from Cmdr Bazmeson (and their consulted friend) that was seized upon by many for long-term ridicule?I don't remember what year it was, maybe 3305, we lost Commander Thrust from Bradford and his friend due to nobody taking an open letter seriously.
Yeah,He is happily strolling around their ship interiors while parked on an Earth-like (probably in VR too, the lucky swine!)![]()
Yeah,I was about to say the same. He's probably flying his Python Mkii enjoying the new PP 2.00
Your intentions are honourable, and for that you should be applauded, but your method of feedback is ineffective. As Agony_Aunt has said, probably best to contact a community manager directly.Dear Frontier Developments, from Texas DeLuxe, General representing Mors Universalis Demolition Division player minor faction,
Firstly, let me acknowledge what an amazing game and community we have in Elite: Dangerous. That is not disputed. Many thousands of hours of entertaining and captivating game play have been enjoyed.
But...
I was concerned today to check in on my squadron's Discord server to much disdain, lament and frustration. You see, our squadron recently gained a monumental achievement by topping the Elite: Dangerous season leaderboard in both AXI and Combat. An achievement that involved a tremendous amount of coordination, organisation, recruitment, combat, strategy, grinding, sweat and tears.
The achievement was glorious and well deserved.
Yet, the disgruntlement and frustration was in response to the latest Galnet News article praising the work of coalitions known as ‘AXI’ and ‘XSF’. I wonder if FDev have lost touch with grass roots player involvement. While we don't expect undue kudos or favouritism, it is disheartening to have others commended despite our efforts. Is it too much to ask for a little recognition? Some tidbit of acknowledgement? So little would give so much!
Yes who would have thought that the Radio Shack Quantum Visor would be such a world changing piece of kit.Wasn’t that the gloriously mild departure post from Cmdr Bazmeson (and their consulted friend) that was seized upon by many for long-term ridicule?
As far as I’m aware, Cmdr Thrust is happily strolling around their ship interiors while parked on an Earth-like (probably in VR too, the lucky swine!)![]()
There is of course the darker side of forum life that tend to take mentions of successful players or groups means that they are favoured by FDev overIt's pretty rare for Frontier to specifically mention players (or sqaudrons) in Galnet articles at all these days. I actually think that's a great shame as 90% of what happens and is newsworthy in the galaxy comes from the players. I miss the days when expeditions and events and player achievements were featured more heavily. But the OP does legitimately raise the downside of that I suppose which is that in featuring one person (or group) there will inevitably be others, possibly even more accomplished or notable, who go unnoticed. I hope FD's takeaway from this (if they do read it) is not to be reminded why they don't do this more often. Anyway ... as someone who gets name checked more frequently than I'm entirely comfortable with can I just end this by raising a heartfelt glass to ALL the unsung heroes of the galaxy and salute your extraordinary achievements.o7
Yes, I was horribly confused, thanks for the gentle prod.Wasn’t that the gloriously mild departure post from Cmdr Bazmeson (and their consulted friend) that was seized upon by many for long-term ridicule?
As far as I’m aware, Cmdr Thrust is happily strolling around their ship interiors while parked on an Earth-like (probably in VR too, the lucky swine!)![]()