If I had to guess, it's probably because they foresaw 18 updates in order to get the game into a viable state, and it cost a lot more to push an update to a console than it does to do so on PC. Given the smaller number of console players, it probably just didn't make Financial sense.
Horizon holdouts need the new Python MK2 availability to be made perfectly clear
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So here's what confuses me then, why do you (and others) say "won't find the ship in in-game shipyards for credits? Because that implies you have to pay each time with ARX you need a new Python mkII.
Then I say "I read it as unlocking the ability to buy the ship in-game" and you agree with me.
Either it's unlocking the ship to buy in-game or it isn't.
Because Odyssey players would be able to get the ship in game, for credits, since 7 August - no unlock needed.
This was made very clear in the announcement
Horizons Live players wont find the ship in game at all - unless they unlock it with Arx. - however, that's an assumption since FD didnt specify exactly how is this going to work for Horizons Live players.
So, IMO - assumption - most likely it will be an one time unlock, then you get it for credits in game, like Odyssey players
But there is also a slim chance that if you want to have 2 Pythons Mk2 in your fleet, you have to Arx it twice - unlikely but not impossible.
I’m inclined to concur with the idea that the ARX purchase will unlock the purchase option(maybe at a discount or just flat out at 0 credits? dunno). Thinking of it like (Has player purchased the new Python package > Yes/No
Yes > “Unlock the ship for purchase”
No > “Keep the purchase option in shipyards locked”)
Just, you know, don’t use this as actual lines of code. I’m hardly anything you could qualify as a programmer and the only crash course I took in it had a horrible teacher who I learned absolutely nothing from.
Yes > “Unlock the ship for purchase”
No > “Keep the purchase option in shipyards locked”)
Just, you know, don’t use this as actual lines of code. I’m hardly anything you could qualify as a programmer and the only crash course I took in it had a horrible teacher who I learned absolutely nothing from.
I didn't get Odyssey because it is a scam and waste of money that offers nothing of value to me. Why would I need to spend money to get ARX to be able to buy a ship with ingame credits as opposed to any other ship in the game?
It is not the fault of the players that their game is tanking nor should we be punished by having to bail them out for their poor performance by using our own money to buy ARX which was never meant to be used for anything besides cosmetics.
It is not the fault of the players that their game is tanking nor should we be punished by having to bail them out for their poor performance by using our own money to buy ARX which was never meant to be used for anything besides cosmetics.
Only offering it to Odyssey players isn't really something worth arguing about as the precedent for this already exists with horizons ships. That move isn't really a surprise. Having a chance to own it at all is actually a better deal than what base game only players got back then.
As for the part about odyssey players being able to access it early with Arx, all I'll say is I won't be taking them up on that.
12 hours into this post... everything is clear as mud.
Just a repeat of what happened with the Base Game when the Horizons only ships started being introduced.FD to Horizon's players
Frontier: Here's a post to make everything clear...
Players: Multi-page thread trying to interpret what the clear announcement means.
Literally coming up on ten years of this now and it still keeps happening
Players: Multi-page thread trying to interpret what the clear announcement means.
Literally coming up on ten years of this now and it still keeps happening
Would have been more clear if they just included one conclusive set of letters. - Starting with the Python Mk II, we are pleased to announce that this will be available in game for Odyssey DLC players on 7 August for credits at Shipyards across the galaxy.Frontier: Here's a post to make everything clear...
Players: Multi-page thread trying to interpret what the clear announcement means.
Literally coming up on ten years of this now and it still keeps happening
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I'm not sure Frontier have ever made a clear announcement. 
Ill post it somewhere else. Do what you want. Like many others, I'm done.
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Well, now Odyssey offers something of value to you - Ships.
You could buy Odyssey to have access to Python Mk2 and the rest of the ships
Or you can keep limiting yourself to the base game and buy ships for Arx - it may be cheaper for just one ship, but they plan to release 4 ships, possible more, which means it's cheaper to just get Odyssey.
Now, back then before Odyssey, when the game was split in Base game and Horizons, there were at least 8 ships that you could buy only in Horizons.
No Horizons, no ships - there was no Arx option back then. And the ships were quite significant: Dolphin, Beluga, T-10, The 3 Alliance Ships and the 2 Kraits.
If you buy it for ARX then I don’t think you also have to also pay credits in game … I assumed it would be available via the ARX store as part of the new “pay real money, get an in-game ship to fly” mechanism they announced at the same time. In fact, I’m pretty sure they explicitly said the Python MkII would be the first ship available that way?
Thus Odyssey (LIVE) owners can get one early for real money or wait and buy it with in-game credits.
Horizon (LIVE) owners only option is to buy one with real money.
As to what happens if you lose said ship and don’t have the rebuy? Anyone’s guess, although the LOANED approach was mentioned on another thread and that seems plausible.
This seems to be valid for the prebuilt ships
Not sure if it will be valid for the early-access Python Mk2 - but it's less than 2 weeks till we will get to experiment it
Just for the record I may or may not buy a Python II early but if I do it will not be for the purpose of finding out what happens if anyone destroys it, there are limits on what I will do For Science and blowing up or being blown up by other players without full consent on both sides is beyond those limits.
Still makes no sense other than Frontier doing scummy practices for money. Both games run off the same code, so they can have access to the same ships regardless of whether you have the base game or were fooled into buying Odyssey.
Unless Odyssey goes on sale for $5 or less, I'm not getting it.
Not everyone limits themselves to the base game through choice.
Some people on PC can't afford the upgrades to make Odyssey run normally.
Some people are on console, which can't have Odyssey.
Perhaps think about that.
Or wait for someone else to test it. You can bet the YouTubers will be testing it as soon as they can so they can pump out another video with a stupid face reaction on the thumbnail and some appropriately shocking title for it.
This is no excuse
if they can run Live 40 they can run Odyssey too - maybe, they wont be getting good fps in a CZ but in space the things are the same.
So buying Odyssey for ships is still okish
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Edit: but why bring consoles into this? my post was quoting someone that said they have no reason to buy Odyssey. Nothing related to not being able to run Odyssey, which is bollox since in space its the same with Live 40 nor related to consoles which will never get the ships since they're on Legacy and done for 2+ years already.
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