And I can't wait for them to bring the game back to being about a guy in a ship.
Well done Frontier!
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i envy your... positivity. if only it was so. if i stopped playing because of a bug, came to the game years later because of grand shiny new content, and saw the same bug still happening, i would be times more irked than before.
on the other hand maybe seeing what new elite content does to their finances moves a bit more attention to this game. but will it be more marketing ploys and paints and fishing for money or actually attending the gameplay issues?
Yes, it is not there yet. What gives me hope is that this time it's:
And it is "A strong back catalogue" now, instead of being just "also included", so there is that.
One step at a time, hopefully.
That was true at that time as they couldn't get Odyssey running acceptably on PS4 and XBX, and in the first year or two of the PS5/XBS the numbers of consoles in the wild was too low for it to be commercially viable, even though it would certainly work on those systems.
2025 will be they year most console normies jump to PS5 and XBS, because this is GTA6 year, the numbers of consoles in the wild is already decent and is going to go up substantially (even if GTA6 is a terrible game).
Again, my point was that they have the staff for this that are already experienced in working on ports for these systems, FDev have games on PS5/XBS right now, so this isn't a situation of a single-game indie developer having to heavily invest in hiring new people or learning new skills, it's about making the best use of the resources they already have. This is a project that would take a few months of development time, not years, and they could go the digital-only route if they were worried about low sales of physical copies cutting into profits.
EDIT: (That's not to say that there aren't good reasons why they wouldn't do it, but those reasons would be related to future plans for Elite, or to other projects those staff can be working on, rather than the current state of Elite at end 2024.)
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As there are many examples with other games, and now with Ei envy your... positivity. if only it was so. if i stopped playing because of a bug, came to the game years later because of grand shiny new content, and saw the same bug still happening, i would be times more irked than before.
on the other hand maybe seeing what new elite content does to their finances moves a bit more attention to this game. but will it be more marketing ploys and paints and fishing for money or actually attending the gameplay issues?
- majority of players who want to jump into the game care much more about "grand shiny new content" than bugs. Obviously if there are no bugs that prevent playing the game, and there are none of those in Elite. Annoying bugs - yes, very annoying, but in the end of the day - there are a lot less players who would stop playing the game due to an annoying bug, and much more of those who would do that because content/features are lacking.Ozric
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No one said that though, it was a conflation you made for no reason other than having a dig at people.
The restructuring, along with a successful PC2 launch are the main reasons the interim results look positive for Frontier. We will have to wait for the full year to see how things shake out, but I'm glad that things are looking more stable for them.
Yes indeed, hopefully the success of the CMS games can continue to make it viable for many years to come. Maybe long enough for me to see development shift back to things I find enjoyable
cant wait for elite to turn into store: dangerousAs there are many examples with other games, and now with E
I sincerely hope that saying this made you feel better.cant wait for elite to turn into store: dangerous
I think the distinction is mainly in when the income is accounted - if you buy Odyssey, that's ~£10 to Frontier's bank balance and to its income. If you buy £10 of ARX, that's £10 to Frontier's bank balance, but it doesn't get counted as revenue until you spend it on something.
From Frontier's last annual accounts (p59)
So the things you can spend ARX on are certainly considered PDLC. The ARX itself technically isn't, but for our (non-accountant) purposes the details of immediate and deferred income probably aren't worth getting into too much.
That was mentioned well before EDO's launch - when the plot restarted in September 2020. It was well over three years after that when Ben left as part of the redundancy scheme.
Like the original "10 year plan" for Elite Dangerous "the two year narrative" should be seen as a statement of intent [1], rather than as a highly inappropriate comment on the contractual specifics of certain Frontier employees.
[1] And in the context of there having been basically no Galnet for 18 months at that point, also of reassurance of at least medium-term commitment to giving the plot another try.
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Ah that makes sense yes, thanks Ian. I knew you'd be able to explain it
huh? you are the one advocating for it...
There are some of us who shelled-out for the LEP (twice) and are slightly miffed that new ships were introduced which required LEP holders to pay for access or wait 3 months. Despite arguments about what is or isn't considered an "expansion" - it still feels disappointing.
I saw that a few times, I understand how it can feel this way, and yes - it would be much better if New Ships were included, even as an act of good will if anything. Maybe because I didn't get LEP, but I don't see new ships as expansions and with that I can't share the sentiment.
What I find disappointing - is that there is no new Expansions/DLC with full fledged features that would make the game deeper / expand the game much more than current small updates do. Hopefully, current success will last long enough to make an Expansion, so old, new, LEP holders, everybody could enjoy. That is the only thing/addition that can make the whole thing better for everybody, imo.
cant wait for elite to turn into store: dangerous
Actually, based on deep space nine, all kinds of interesting things can happen at the store.
You might be able to have the option for a secret doorway, which leads to all kinds of skullduggery and interesting people coming and going at your store.
There might be some criminal activity that you would have to defend your store from, such as the gang that shall not be named. You might have to hire some shadowy figures to defend your store. Alien creatures might demand that you sell them something if you could only understand what they were trying to say. And they look like they anger very easily if you do not understand what it is they're trying to purchase.
There might be a mission that would require you to supply illegal weapons to very very big buyers. Billions can be made with just one transaction. But if the authorities find out that would be a Perma death for your character. Choose your path here wisely.
Do you mean certain paint jobs in the ARX store or something like the Thargoid war ending? Other than that, I don't understand. They have added a ton of content in the last year.
This is so good! Seems like I want it even more than Ship Interiors
If I was having a dig, I'd make it much more obvious than that...
You, of all people, should know that!
Happy to pay for the next lot too (here's hoping), said before i would subscribe if it helped them get more funds in as long as it went on ED development.You purchased all four ships?
You, sir, have won our deepest admiration!
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I did wonder that when I first read it, but I concluded that ARX must represent PDLC for ED, on the basis that I am not aware of any other ways to pay for PDLC in the ED world - or am I missing something?
Wow, am quite surprised that they don't recognise the revenue from ARX purchases until it has been redeemed, but as you say it's an accountancy thing...