"Scan Megships in Reinforcement Systems"

Today I started my second week of doing Power Play 2.0 after a successful completion last week. My first assignment today was "Scan Megships in Acquisition Systems". I did the following.
1. I highlighted the assignment
2. Pressed enter to reveal a subscreen
3. Clicked on the map link in the lower right revealing the galaxy map with only Reinforcement Systems displayed.
4. Selected a destination and flew to it
5. Then honked, ran FSS and found a hauler
6. On arrival I data scanned the hauler (megaship) that was there.
7. Then found that ships data link and scanned it.
8. Was successful in completing the task.

So I used the same initial parts of this approach 2 more times. And only found fleet carriers which apparently they are not considered as megaships because I couldn't scan them.

So, I wonder if the shut down of the colonization explains the lack of megaship haulers.
 
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So, I wonder if the shut down of the colonization explains the lack of megaship haulers.

No, plenty of megaships around, look on the Raxxla potato hunt reports, the problem you are having is that megaships move every few weeks, so there's no guarantee a megaship will be in a system from one week to the next. In the last 25 systems I scanned I found 7 megaships, probably a total of 25 or so in total last week, so there are still plenty around, they may just not be where you want them.

Megaships do not disappear, they are a permanent part of the pre-colonisation galaxy, they just move around.
 
I don't know but I had "scan megaships in acquisition systems" last week and after dedicating a university assignment's worth of time, research, and headache to it, I'm pretty sure it's an impossible task.
 
Yes. It was an Acquisition system where I found one hauler earlier today. And based on my experience tonight I think there is a lot of credibility to my theory that there is a lack of hauler megships due to the colonization shut down. I just went to 6 Acquisition Systems and NONE had a hauler. Lots of wrecks , fleet carriers and stations, but not a one hauler.
 
I just went to 6 Acquisition Systems and NONE had a hauler. Lots of wrecks , fleet carriers and stations, but not a one hauler.

I visited 25 systems and found 7 megaships, one system had 2 so say 6 out of 25, but that's a good number for my surveying, 6 systems in a row without haulers is not unusual, but lets be clear these are fixed assets, they didn't appear with colonisation and they don't vanish because of changes to colonisation, every megaship has a log of systems it will be visiting and which it has visited in the past, as far as I am aware none were added due to colonisation and none have been removed, the numbers haven't changed, you have just experienced this thing we call "bad luck."
 
Use inara data search for Station type “bulk cruiser scannable megaship” with the appropriate PP filter.
Sounds good.

But please explain this. The weekly assignments refers to Aquisition, Reinforcement and Undermining States where the megaships need to be scanned.

But Inara only has Unoccupied, Contested, Exploited, Fortified and Stronghold as usable Power Play 2.0 filters for the search.

How does one relate to the other? If I get it wrong the scan wont count.
 
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I visited 25 systems and found 7 megaships, one system had 2 so say 6 out of 25, but that's a good number for my surveying, 6 systems in a row without haulers is not unusual, but lets be clear these are fixed assets, they didn't appear with colonisation and they don't vanish because of changes to colonisation, every megaship has a log of systems it will be visiting and which it has visited in the past, as far as I am aware none were added due to colonisation and none have been removed, the numbers haven't changed, you have just experienced this thing we call "bad luck."
If you work for FD or are a programmer there I would take your word for it. If not, its just another theory.
 
Use inara data search for Station type “bulk cruiser scannable megaship” with the appropriate PP filter.
I just tried Inara where 1 hauler was listed in Mitnihaus. There were 38 fleet carriers but no haulers. Based on this experience I wouldnt rely on Inara as a reliable source for this task.
 
I just tried Inara where 1 hauler was listed in Mitnihaus. There were 38 fleet carriers but no haulers. Based on this experience I wouldnt rely on Inara as a reliable source for this task.

There will rarely be more than one megaship in a system, one in ten will maybe have 2, only on two occasions have I seen 3. Having surveyed 569 systems containing megaships I assure you finding a single megaship in a system is perfectly normal, but remember that bit I said about them moving? The system data is only updated once a player visits, so if the megaship moves between updates it will still show in Inara...until it is updated by a visiting CMDR who actually reports data. So no, data in Inara isn't reliably up to date, it never is, it never can be because of the source of data, it is only as good as the last players data upload. But if you check between megaships moves rather than right near the turnover data and time when the ships move then it should be useful.
 
I just tried Inara where 1 hauler was listed in Mitnihaus

I presume you mean Mitnahas there, data for that systems megeaships was reportedly updated on 12 March, so the day before maintenance, megaships move on maintenance so presumably it moved out on that date and no-one has updated the system data since. Had a quick look at the travel schedule listed on Inara on the megaship page that said that Pikum is the next system on its route after Mitnahas and jumped there, just a single jump away, and there it was, in the Pikum system! PIK-299 Hercules-class Hauler, so if you want to scan it that's where it is at the moment.
 
Sounds good.

But please explain this. The weekly assignments refers to Aquisition, Reinforcement and Undermining States where the megaships need to be scanned.

But Inara only has Unoccupied, Contested, Exploited, Fortified and Stronghold as usable Power Play 2.0 filters for the search.

How does one relate to the other? If I get it wrong the scan wont count.
Undermining systems are those that belong to another power.

Reinforcement systems belong to your power. So those are exploited, fortified and stronghold systems.

Acquisition is a little less straightforward. These include all contested systems for your power and some unoccupied systems for your power. I copy the system name from the inara query to the clipboard and paste into the galmap. Filter gal map for your power only; acquisition systems will be the systems with a white circle, including ones with the swords crossed. As I said, I’m traveling and do not have access to the game, but I think there’s also a double white circle system that also counts as an acquisition system. So finding acquisition systems in game using inara’s Bulk Cruiser query is not as straightforward as the other PP states. Maybe someone else has a more direct method for this than me.
 
I just went to 6 Acquisition Systems and NONE had a hauler
Normally I'd say that there's an average of one non-dockable megaship for every two or three systems. Which certainly doesn't preclude you getting unlucky and seeing six in a row without one, that's well within a little bit of bad luck.

But Colonisation has changed all that - by in-filling the bubble, it's added a lot more potential Acquisition systems for every power, and none of the new ones have suitable megaships. So the odds might well be closer to 1-in-6 nowadays.

Another in-game way to find them: check mission boards in or near your Power's Acquisition zones for "scan megaship uplink" missions. Those will tell you exactly where a particular megaship is right now (and hopefully find some actually in your Power's Acquisition systems) - you don't need to actually take the mission, though it is a "get paid twice" opportunity.

Maybe someone else has a more direct method for this than me.
Not really. I think this one is probably a task it's not even guaranteed to be able to be possible to complete, depending on which Power you are and how many potential acquisition targets it has.

(I did it once to see if there was any trick to it, and I just skip it if it comes up nowadays)
 
I was quite methodical in my approach last week and yielded no results.

My process:
  • I went to the galmap, then selected powerplay, then zemina torval, and then set the filter to show only fortified and stronghold systems.
  • Then I clicked on such a system near the edges of her territory, and used the right side column of icons to select powerplay options for that system.
  • Then I picked "strategic view," which brings up a set of radiating lines and a bounding circle surrounding the system in question. There would always be plenty of Unoccupied and Contested (white circle) systems connected to these radiating lines. My understanding is that this is the definition of an Acquisition System: it must be unoccupied and it must be within a certain range of a Fortified or Stronghold system.
  • Next, I oriented the galmap in a top-down view with the Fortified system at the center. I used one of my old hyperjump dotted lines for orienteering, and set it up such that the bounding circle was like the face of a clock, and my hyperspace line was the 12:00 hand.
  • Then, I methodically clicked on each of the white circle systems and brought up the panel for that system.
  • Then I opened the system map if it was available, and checked the points of interest list looking for megaships. If I found none (which was always), I backed out into the Galmap again and went through the multi step process of setting up the same view of the same Fortified system.

(sidenote: It would be GREAT if, upon opening the Galmap, it defaulted to the same viewpoint, highlighted system, and filter/info panel configuration as when we last left it. There are a lot of repeated fussy steps here)

  • To continue: I'd click on another white circle and repeat the process. I worked my way around the "clock face" to ensure I didn't miss anything and didn't keep repeating myself. Sometimes I didn't have the system data, and so if it was not available for purchase, I would jump there and dock at a station.
  • Later, I learned that on the galmap, when you are in PowerPlay view, there is a list of powerplay-relavent activities which is not (as I had assumed) a generic catch-all list, but rather is specific to the tasks available in that particular system.
  • This improved my workflow. Instead of opening the system map for each Unoccupied system, I would scroll down looking for a line item called "scan datalinks" or something like that.
  • I found no such line item in ANY of the unoccupied systems I looked at over the course of easily 3 or more hours of doing this, spread out across multiple play sessions.

Zemina Torval territory is not huge. I spent some time on this and made sure to set up "clock faces" in several regions of her space so that I would get good coverage of the candidate systems. Nothing.

I am not saying that this weekly task is ALWAYS impossible for everybody, but the game is very clearly indifferent to whether or not such a task would be possible to complete when it hands it to you. My particular case was close enough to impossible as to be, for the purposes of an activity in an entertainment product, functionally impossible.

I think I was patient enough with the game and tried to engage with it on its own terms but this was ultimately an exercise in frustration and yet another experience where gameplay feels more like troubleshooting. This is NOT a quality experience in its current state. I found the whole process mildly interesting for about 45 minutes of fruitless search, but after that it becomes more of an insult to my attention and time.

Thank you @Ian Doncaster for the tip: I will at least take a peak at the mission boards in Fortification/Stronghold systems next time and see if that yields any actionable clues.
The issue I anticipate with your strategy is that it would likely send me to non-Acquisition systems, which might have scannable Megaships and might even get me merits for scanning them, but would NOT count towards the weekly PowerPlay mission requirements. Indeed I DID scan a number of megaships in occupied systems, in fortified systems, in stronghold systems, because as I was jumping around a lot and noticed megaships in many of the systems I passed through; but none of them turned out to be in Acquisition systems and none of them counted towards my mission.

Thankyou, all who read this.
If there's a flaw in my method, or my assumptions about how this works - please share. If there's a quick and easy way to find the right systems for "Scan Megaships in Acquisition Systems," please share. If this is DOABLE AT ALL, and you know how to do it - please share what you did.
 
I have found 2 effective ways to do the scan megaship haulers.

1. Inara works good if you know how to enter the PP 2.0 filters to get you in the correct system.
Under Search Nearest Three entries are needed.
1.Your current system.
2. Station type - Bulk cruiser (scanable megaship)
3. View Addition Options / Power Play State. This one can be confusing.
(The weekly assignments refers to Aquisition, Reinforcement and Undermining States where the megaships need to be scanned.
But Inara only has Unoccupied, Contested, Exploited, Fortified and Stronghold as usable Power Play 2.0 filters for the Power Play State search.

2. On your left ship monitor screen open the Transacttions Tab and scroll down to the Power Play category. Pick which challenge you want to do and click on it. In the lower right click on the map button. This takes you to the Galmap showing the appropriate systems to search. Go to one. FSS scan. and hopefully you know what to do from here.
 
I've done a few of these (and again, thanks to Cmdr Ian Doncaster for pointing me in the right direction, first time I tried). here's what I found:
1. megaships move around; presumably for that reason I don't find Inara to be even close to 100% accurate and I presume it gets outdated fairly quickly; and
2. when I randomly jump around inhabited systems, I find lots of megaships (but, as others have noted, you can go through many systems and not find any. Conversely, yesterday, I jumped into a system and there were 3...).

Something you could consider: scanning a megaship "pays" fairly well in merit terms: 900 ~ 1350. Completion of an assignment pays an extra few thousand merits (3000? 4000?). But completing an assignment has the extra nausea of figuring out (in this case) acquisition systems to your power and then figuring out which ones have megaships. I now ignore those assignments and just jump around random inhabited systems looking for megaships (i.e. set map options to economical mode; set to any system other than anarchy, plot a course from system A to any system B such that there's lots of jumps - 20ish or more). I find that jumping around randomly will gather just as many merits as the assignment, most times faster.

Good luck! At the end of the day, its still fun!
 
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