Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback

[Kira Goto]

the solution is simple, allow the architect to block economy types at the port they dont want, leave the body strength itself alone.

The other possibility is not making planetary economy of a non-matching type apply if you build stuff on or around it that either is something different, or works into one of the economy aspects applied. But that could come with its own problems.

… still, not having tourism always active on a station I want focused on agriculture around a (terraformable) water world, would be nice. I’m sure it would also make some sense to not have the weird quad mix of ELW economy to a colony outpost when you’re focusing on tourism or agriculture (as an example).

 

[Roy Revant]

Some of the build required illegal goods And it's really annoying whenever Brewer Corp block my repair/refuel at OCS; and each time I have to fly all the way to the megaship to pay the fine.

Can something be done about this ??
edit : heatsink is just extra weight that gonna shrink my hauler pitiful jump range so no thank

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

Just ignore the fine and buy stuff elsewhere.

 

[Roy Revant]

Just ignore the fine and buy stuff elsewhere.

sure , now with the fine on me , now the security doesnt shoot the npc attacking me while I dock at OCS

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

sure , now with the fine on me , now the security doesnt shoot the npc attacking me while I dock at OCS

They should, if you have report crimes turned on. A fine doesn't make you wanted so the NPC will get a bounty and become wanted as soon as he fires on you.

 

[Roy Revant]

They should, if you have report crimes turned on. A fine doesn't make you wanted so the NPC will get a bounty and become wanted as soon as he fires on you.

they didnt , that mean it's a bug and Fdev should address this
And I dont have screenshot/clip of that instance so if you or anyone want to clarify this issue go ahead and get a fine from BC and see how this fare

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

I've been carrying fines from Brewer for weeks and they've taken out plenty of pirates trying to hassle me.

 

[AZSlow3]

edit : heatsink is just extra weight that gonna shrink my hauler pitiful jump range so no thank

If several meters of reduced jump range matter for you, take 2 tons commodities less or lightweight engineer heat sink launcher. Also I have not observed any system where Steel/Titan/CMM are illegal, so you can transfer these several tons in your smuggler ship. My cargo ship can silent run for a while without heat sink (cargo ships normally have no shields and they are relatively cool). Well... I don't remember when I have visited Trailblazer the last time (to take Emergency power cells, Akhenaten is 70ly farther from my location).

I mean that is one of most unimportant "imperfections" in current colonization rules.

 

[kepler68]

Some of the build required illegal goods And it's really annoying whenever Brewer Corp block my repair/refuel at OCS; and each time I have to fly all the way to the megaship to pay the fine.
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Can something be done about this ??
edit : heatsink is just extra weight that gonna shrink my hauler pitiful jump range so no thank

Your primary station (the starter one) has Interstellar Factors on it! No primary starport needs illegal goods so your guaranteed to have one in system

 

[CMDR GFJake]

for those experiencing the fines with brewer.

 

[Roy Revant]

If several meters of reduced jump range matter for you, take 2 tons commodities less or lightweight engineer heat sink launcher. Also I have not observed any system where Steel/Titan/CMM are illegal, so you can transfer these several tons in your smuggler ship. My cargo ship can silent run for a while without heat sink (cargo ships normally have no shields and they are relatively cool). Well... I don't remember when I have visited Trailblazer the last time (to take Emergency power cells, Akhenaten is 70ly farther from my location).

I mean that is one of most unimportant "imperfections" in current colonization rules.

Combat Stabilizer and Combat weapon depend on type of gov. Those 2 required for T1 pirate outpost & T2 military/security/medical. Before BC took over , every time I got the fine I could just hop to another port in the sytem and paid the fine . But with BC as of now, since they dosh not have any % in any system, so those mega ships is their only contact.

Your primary station (the starter one) has Interstellar Factors on it! No primary starport needs illegal goods so your guaranteed to have one in system

And you ,either know something I do not or You don't even know what are you talking about. I assume you know that the fine is tied to ship not the player. With that in mind do tell your trick how to land T9/Cutter at an outpost

 

[kepler68]

And you ,either know something I do not or You don't even know what are you talking about. I assume you know that the fine is tied to ship not the player. With that in mind do tell your trick how to land T9/Cutter at an outpost

Saw off an external large landing pad from a construction site and duct tape it to an outpost.

In all seriousness i didnt realize you had an outpost primary, ouch. If there are other players with T2/T3 primaries in the local area those will likely do the trick as well.

 

[AZSlow3]

Combat Stabilizer and Combat weapon depend on type of gov. Those 2 required for T1 pirate outpost & T2 military/security/medical. Before BC took over , every time I got the fine I could just hop to another port in the sytem and paid the fine . But with BC as of now, since they dosh not have any % in any system, so those mega ships is their only contact.

And you ,either know something I do not or You don't even know what are you talking about. I assume you know that the fine is tied to ship not the player. With that in mind do tell your trick how to land T9/Cutter at an outpost

Do you mean these fines can't be paid to Interstellar or you don't have Interstellar with L pad around? But as I have suggested, just don't collect these fines by delivering with a smuggler ship or make your cargo ship "not scannable". Also I am scanned so rarely, that flying to megaship every time I am scanned while having these things on board (bad luck) is not going to be a big deal. I read many players are continuously interdicted by pirates and scanned all the time. And I wonder why...

 

[Astrometer]

What this feature really needs is some corny colonisation themed NPC chatter especially at the colonisation ships. There are loads of passenger ships arriving presumably bringing eager colonists. The radio silence is not normal.

 

[CMDR GFJake]

Do you mean these fines can't be paid to Interstellar or you don't have Interstellar with L pad around? But as I have suggested, just don't collect these fines by delivering with a smuggler ship or make your cargo ship "not scannable". Also I am scanned so rarely, that flying to megaship every time I am scanned while having these things on board (bad luck) is not going to be a big deal. I read many players are continuously interdicted by pirates and scanned all the time. And I wonder why...

currently brewer security can scan you regardless of your ships ability to be unscanned, its part of the bug, just depends on if they feel like scanning you or not, sometimes i get constantly scanned, other times they dont bother for alittle while.

 

[CMDR GFJake]

And you ,either know something I do not or You don't even know what are you talking about. I assume you know that the fine is tied to ship not the player. With that in mind do tell your trick how to land T9/Cutter at an outpost

Fines appear tied to the character not the ship, unlike bounties that are tied to the ship.

i got fined in my cutter, switched to my T8 and went to a IF in the next system that had medium pads only and paid off the fine.

 

[Kira Goto]

currently brewer security can scan you regardless of your ships ability to be unscanned

Regular security can also scan your ship if it is “hidden”/aka thermals at zero or silent running enabled. They’re just forced to get a lot closer into assured detection range for it and may notice the ship less easily. So it isn’t a magic “I win” button.

It is inconsistent when they do and don’t decide to run a scan though. Sometimes I’ll just throw the brick into autodock and it’ll land without one, then right as I take off after the delivery they proceed to scan.

… I’ve also noticed you can get bounties for Brewer Corp by having a colonization claim active and baiting pirates with cargo in that system (even if you don’t actually intend to complete it). The bounties for those pirates will be for the ‘invisible’ faction, and it’s less fiddly than getting them at or close to construction sites. Though not handed any in yet to see if they increase the reputation with it.

 

[PilotB]

Regular security can also scan your ship if it is “hidden”/aka thermals at zero or silent running enabled. They’re just forced to get a lot closer into assured detection range for it and may notice the ship less easily. So it isn’t a magic “I win” button.

They can but you get warned when they do it. There's a long standing feature in game where you'll get fined docking at stations without being scanned by ships. It doesn't fail your missions if you had any don't get caught smuggling missions. You get no warning and it doesn't care how stealthy you are. You just get fined by the station. That's what is happening to a lot of people here. The security forces can be avoided.

 

[Kira Goto]

There's a long standing feature in game where you'll get fined docking at stations without being scanned by ships.

… which I have never experienced even when I manually dock and a security ship doesn’t scan me. The only thing I am even aware of is speeding and bumping into something gets you a fine. Aside from the loitering or trespassing ones you can get for pad blocking/entering without permission.

You probably also just replied to the wrong person, or are agreeing in a somewhat roundabout way.

 

[PilotB]

which I have never experienced even when I manually dock

I replied to exactly who I intended to. I disagree with that person the security forces are for me definitely not scanning and giving a fine on approach. Sure the mechanics technically exist for them to scan you but they're probably not the source of the fines.

If you've never been ghost fined lucky you. It's been a major PITA for me but I suspect I smuggle more than the average player. It's not a very profitable loop but sometimes it's the missions that are available. The same feature just happens to now be pinging people at construction sites.