Hey you two, please respect the forum etiquette: no polite exchange allowed, you must rage at each other.
Behave!
Panther Clipper MK II | Highlights
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Hey you two, please respect the forum etiquette: no polite exchange allowed, you must rage at each other.
Behave!
Well, I can take your word it, since I used my cutter to carry as much people as possible from burning stations and not for combat.
Anyways, back to the topic ; although I am wondering how the handling of PC II will be, I will learn to fly it , because I really need the 50% ish cargo increase as a solo coloniser. From 720 to 1100 is a huge upgrade for me. For NPC pirates, hopefully a 7c bi-weave shielding with turreted weapons will be enough.
That depends on how you define nice. It doesn't fly like a Cobra or anything, but it's a big bulk cargo hauler. It's not supposed to. I find it very chill to fly. You just have to make your turns a bit earlier and cut thrust sooner. It's not the most responsive ship in the world, and I have no problem with people not enjoying it. I just disagree that it's completely terrible.
No need to compare it to a Cobra. The way I define it, it doesn't even fly nice compared to some of its large peers. The Beluga is a dream to fly in comparison, as is the Corvette. Yeah I know, not the same cargo capacity, but the Cutter sucks even empty.
I wouldn't say it flies nice, it flies different. It has very strong thrusters, which can be used to accelerate AND brake. It has strong armour, which can also be used to brake. The only turn you want to do after boosting is 180. Turning 90 degrees is a very bad idea.
Arrive at station, aim past station and boost. When passing station, flip 180. End up stationary facing directly into the slot. Fly in and land. Don't bother braking when landing, the nose of the ship does that for you.
Yeah, that is what fits my definition of "sucks to fly" 
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.I have a confession to make: I don't know how the ships fly any more.
For the last couple of months I was flying almost exclusively a heavy 784 Cutter. I was losing my mind at first on the way it behaves, then eased up into it, forgot that these are the problems but got into a frame of mind "this is how my ship in Elite flies" and got used to it.
Now when I want to do a quick errand or smuggle some Combat Stabilizers and Weapons in Mandalay or T-8, I struggle. "Woooah, easy! Why so wiggly and jumpy?!!!"
For the last couple of months I was flying almost exclusively a heavy 784 Cutter. I was losing my mind at first on the way it behaves, then eased up into it, forgot that these are the problems but got into a frame of mind "this is how my ship in Elite flies" and got used to it.
Now when I want to do a quick errand or smuggle some Combat Stabilizers and Weapons in Mandalay or T-8, I struggle. "Woooah, easy! Why so wiggly and jumpy?!!!"
Where I'm going 23,000 tons of Tritium is required because I don't mine Tritium.
So 23 trips to the Tritium depot it is. Better than 29 trips in my cutter I suppose.
Depends on the MLF; the Cutter has the highest MLF in the game despite being 100 tonnes lighter than the T10. There really ought to be nothing that can mass lock a ship this size short of a fleet carrier or station.
My tip for the cutter..... fa off. Btw, it's inertia, not "drift".
Here in Germany, we'd say it's neither fish nor fowl. Even if I were still interested in colonization, this ship would still be impractical. Under 2000 tons, you don't need to think about it; the ship should have a storage capacity of around 2500-3000 tons.
Otherwise, I would recommend the Game Space Trucker if you want to fly straight from A to B and B to A and maybe C. Maybe interesting for professional truck drivers, but not for the average player.
Apart from that, the rules within a radius of 15 light-years take the fun out of it anyway, and there are some secret, undocumented flags that prevent you from claiming a system (even if it's empty and inhabited, etc.). I wanted to get a system with an Earth-like world for fun, but then I gave up in frustration.
Beta or not - this is broken by design.
Regardless - nice little ship, but with the stats and setups, it's completely uninteresting to me und still useless for colonization.
Cheers.
Otherwise, I would recommend the Game Space Trucker if you want to fly straight from A to B and B to A and maybe C. Maybe interesting for professional truck drivers, but not for the average player.
Apart from that, the rules within a radius of 15 light-years take the fun out of it anyway, and there are some secret, undocumented flags that prevent you from claiming a system (even if it's empty and inhabited, etc.). I wanted to get a system with an Earth-like world for fun, but then I gave up in frustration.
Beta or not - this is broken by design.
Regardless - nice little ship, but with the stats and setups, it's completely uninteresting to me und still useless for colonization.
Cheers.
Potential CG to expand the +50% cargo to class 6 modules...plant that seed for FDev
I agree, anything more than 1200t is OP. The range of haulage capacities gives pilots sufficient scope to switch modules + engineering.
Yes, I understand what you mean. I used it to transport refugees too. Glaives with missiles appear, you throw ECM and jump. I thought it would be better to do this on passenger ships, but they all don't have flight speed.
How much capacity do you think the original had when properly outfitted?
Why is it OP if the Cutter can already nearly match its tons/hour? The ship could have a 10,000 ton capacity and would still be bad if it had a 1 m/s speed. The 1200 ton Cutter comparison others have made also ignores speed. A 1200 ton Cutter would actually be +50%/hour, whereas the Panther Clipper needs to have 1800 tons or so to haul the same as a 1200 ton Cutter.
awesome... so you know what it takes, how much training, study, practice, touch and go, and more, just to earn your wings... while here in ED, we're all magically "commanders" starting with a sidewinder... that's a blasphemy if you ask me... but my comment is more to the guy rambling about we need to grind to earn our "stripes"...I can ILS land a Lockheed L-1011 TriStar.
I mean no offense to anyone, but just don't promote grinding, it's not everyone's cup of tea...
aha, I see... when you put it like this makes sense... thanks for the clarification...