Already have 50million credits

Dont worry, the ticket system works great. The exploit is very simple, a mistake with numbers in the gamma from FD as the OP wrote earlier. They are aware of it (got answer on my tickets, they are always aware ;) ) and will fix it of course. I tried the Python for a quick run. Maneuvers like the Cobra, more fond of it than the ´conda from premium beta, its gonna be alot of trade runs in release if they use the same price. And a truly nice reward for all the time put in the game.

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And they already stated a wipe is highly likely before release (i know i will be wiped thats for sure). Just hunt for the bugs gents and gals.

Well, I wanted to take the Python for a spin too. If they're going to make a wipe in the end, can you PM me how?
Only managed to get to the Cobra, on Beta 3. Regards.
 
I have a hunch it involves selling everything from your starter ship then selling the ship or self-destruct since only the lasers are loaned and free... then again the stuff in your ship is also mostly free. Oh, and it's probably only working for kickstarters who get ships better than sidewinders and eagles at start.

I know, I'm probably all wrong...
 
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Yeah, I hate not knowing things like this when they're apparently really obvious. If it's a riddle, at least give us some sort of clue if you want other people to find it, even if it's just one word.

Maybe it'd even be a good idea to put the "riddle" into words, I can't see how anything anyone's said here is supposed to help people find the exploit. From what I can see, there's a discussion on whether it should be published, then a few people who want to know what the exploit is and what it involves, and then a bunch of smug people bragging about how they've found it and it's really simple and that they can't believe others haven't found it yet.
 
I have a hunch it involves selling everything from your starter ship then selling the ship or self-destruct since only the lasers are loaned and free... then again the stuff in your ship is also mostly free. Oh, and it's probably only working for kickstarters who get ships better than sidewinders and eagles at start.

I know, I'm probably all wrong...

Some backers have Cobra with an intermediate discovery scanner and have been selling the scanner (it's worth 500k), buying precious metals, dumping them for another player or second account to pick up, then resetting the account and doing it over and over again.

Not sure if that's the exploit being whispered about here, or if it's one of a half-dozen other candidates.
 
It's like "hey, i've got gravity and quantum entanglement all figured out! It's so simple you WILL facepalm when you figure it out. I mean things fall to the ground, don't they? It's a nice little riddle you really shouldn't be deprived of :)"
 
I'm one of those that only want to know because people are saying it's so simple, and I can't figure it out.

It's annoying. I wouldn't care if it was complex, but if it's simple... There is a 98% chance of a wipe, why not tell us?
We're still in the testing phase, let us test some of the more expensive stuff, yeah?

Or at least give some damn hints...
 
Yea i second the notion of the commander above me of his resolve to know how the supposed exploit happens. I have read this forum topic and havn't seen anywhere on how this exploit has been done. I've seen the 999 million credit glitch on the solar system panel which is quite funny but other then that, nothing.
 
All the more reason to share it.

Thing is even after the 16th there are inevitably going to be other exploits found at some stage down the line. At the moment another wipe (ugh) is incoming so not to worry so much but what happens if something like this occurs after release? We can't constantly wipe everyone's progress.

Finding and reporting this stuff is of course good for the integrity of the game, however, finding and using it for ones benefit is defintely not good. Most gaming companies take a dim view of people exploiting their games, with progress even rolled back, warnings, account suspensions, bans etc.. Might be nice if we had a clear policy of what was acceptable moving forward.
 
Sounds totally backwards to me. Exploits should be as revealed as widely as possible so there is as much incentive as possible to fix them.

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It takes about a billion credits to fully deck out an Anaconda.


Hey man, great post. I totally agree with your points.
 
I applaud you. The exploits SHOULD be published A.S.A.P. so they get fixed faster. Yes, ticket them of course. And then publish them. Faster than just ticketing. Oh, and judging by previous experiences exploits get fixed only at major patches. The mission abort exploit in beta 2 only got fixed in beta 3. And that was more widely known than this one.

Publishing an exploit does not gurrantee it will be fixed quicker, it simply puts more pressure on the software company and generates more work if they are to perform partial roll backs rather than a full wipe. If only a handful of people know about it they can fix those commanders rather than annoy everyone with a full reset.

IMO the correct way to deal with issues is to ticket them first. Give FD a reasonable amount of time to fix (say by next patch, or one after if you find problem late in the patch cycle) - if FD do nothing THEN release it to the wild.
 
Let us know after it's fixed. That'll satisfy the curiosity of those that are genuinely just interested for the sake of it, rather than those who wish to exploit it themselves ;)
 

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Maybe it might be easier to tell who has progressed normally, and those people won't get wiped :)

I think that, given the statistics that we know are gathered per player and speculating what other statistics Frontier may also gather but not display, it would be trivial to carry out a "balance sheet" check on a per-player basis and fairly easily determine which players have used such an exploit.
 
Like dilli-theclaw I'm curious and wait for the revelation after a fix ^^ !

But more important than that, we need to know if FD have a proper solution than a full wipe for everyone if this kind of problem occur after release !
If FD announces a full wipe at release because of this, unfortunately it will be the sign that they don't have any solution to exclude clean players and I will be very worried for the next exploit after the gamma !
 
Don't panic! Once we go "live" and we've had the final wipe, FD will be able to detect Commanders who have magical bank balance increases. It's not difficult to run a script on their cloud based servers to check historical records say every hour or so and report on anomalies.

Theerrant commanders can then be interdicted by the FD staff and given suitable reprimands. (after being given a chance to defend themselves of course!)

The Reddit thread where a certain Commanders actions were questioned is surely testament to this.
 
Don't panic! Once we go "live" and we've had the final wipe, FD will be able to detect Commanders who have magical bank balance increases. It's not difficult to run a script on their cloud based servers to check historical records say every hour or so and report on anomalies.

Theerrant commanders can then be interdicted by the FD staff and given suitable reprimands. (after being given a chance to defend themselves of course!)

The Reddit thread where a certain Commanders actions were questioned is surely testament to this.

that's assuming they log every monetary transaction we made in-game to have some kind of history.

and this is not some kind of an exploit/hack to the game. it's just some values they haven't thought about or did not notice. as an example if you find a trade route which suddenly gives you 500.000 credits/t do you consider it an exploit? a hack? you may of course notice something wrong and rightly report it. but if it happens after release, should they delete the commanders account because of it? or even ban him because of market exploitation? :D (it's the traders job to do so)
 
Publishing an exploit does not gurrantee it will be fixed quicker, it simply puts more pressure on the software company and generates more work if they are to perform partial roll backs rather than a full wipe. If only a handful of people know about it they can fix those commanders rather than annoy everyone with a full reset.

IMO the correct way to deal with issues is to ticket them first. Give FD a reasonable amount of time to fix (say by next patch, or one after if you find problem late in the patch cycle) - if FD do nothing THEN release it to the wild.

If they do a wipe there will be a full wipe for everyone. But I agree the exploit should not get pupished to the public.
 
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