General / Off-Topic Kickstarter fraud

[jamotide]

This is not yet related to Elite, but I wasn't sure where to post this:


If you raise money via Kickstarter and don’t deliver products you promised backers, the government will come after you.

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/attorney-general-asylum-playing-cards-crowdfunded-project/

 

[Elmasri]

This is not yet related to Elite, but I wasn't sure where to post this:


If you raise money via Kickstarter and don’t deliver products you promised backers, the government will come after you.

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/attorney-general-asylum-playing-cards-crowdfunded-project/

Sorry, I am not sure what your point is...

This is a case where no product was delivered as promised. That is nothing like Elite: Dangerous. A product has been delivered, and it is blood brilliant. Kickstarter does not guarantee that you will like the product you are delivered, just that you will get it. They clearly state that it may not be quite what you hoped, but that the requirement is for the developer to do they best they can to fulfill their side of the bargain. See https://www.kickstarter.com/trust for reference.

 

[flint read]

thanks OP i needed a laugh this morning.

and agreed it's pointless but again thanks for the laugh!

 

[flint read]

Well said Jonty! +1

 

[Davevti]

Quick before the fanboi hating doomsdayers arrive!

 

[jamotide]

It is not pointless, because it shows, that kickstarter is not just an investment, where it doesnt matter what comes out. This guy wasn't delivering the cards, and not issuing refunds. Frontier is not delivering DRM free editions, and not issuing refunds.

 

[Cmdr Andy B]

This is not yet related to Elite

and never will be, offline mode was not a pledge reward.

 

[jamotide]

and never will be, offline mode was not a pledge reward.

Drm free editions were a pledge reward, I did not say offline.Try to keep up.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Drm free editions were a pledge reward, I did not say offline.Try to keep up.

The game disc in the box will, I expect, be free from physical DRM - in accordance with the pledge tier reward text.

 

[jamotide]

The game disc in the box will, I expect, be free from physical DRM - in accordance with the pledge tier reward text.

It is supposed to be a physical DRM free edition, not a physically DRM free physical edition, but nice try lol

 

[Robert Maynard]

It is supposed to be a physical DRM free edition, not a physically DRM free physical edition, but nice try lol

You will no doubt have noted the "(please note: the disc in the pack is simply an alternative way to install the game - it will have the same online account code whether installed off disc or downloaded digitally)" text in the tier reward text. Your interpretation of the initial part of the text is just that - an interpretation, taken out of context of the rest of the tier reward text.

 

[jamotide]

Which you "can" use to connect to multiplayer, that is not my interpretation, that is clarified in the FAQ section.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Which you "can" use to connect to multiplayer, that is not my interpretation, that is clarified in the FAQ section.

That would be this clarification:

Will the game be DRM-free?

Yes, the game code will not include DRM (Digital Rights Management), but there will be server authentication when you connect for multiplayer and/or updates and to synchronise with the server.

Last updated: Mon, Dec 10 2012 11:54 AM +00:00

In the absence of an offline game, there is a need to connect to the server.

 

[jamotide]

"when" you connect. But if you don't do multiplayer, you can play without it.

 

[Robert Maynard]

"when" you connect. But if you don't do multiplayer, you can play without it.

You seem to be under the impression that there is some way to play the game offline. I do not believe that that is possible.

 

[Cmdr Andy B]

Drm free editions were a pledge reward, I did not say offline.Try to keep up.

and you didn't say anything about DRM free either, try to be accurate.

 

[jamotide]

You seem to be under the impression that there is some way to play the game offline. I do not believe that that is possible.

Exactly, that's why they only deliver your physically drm free editions, but not the DRM free physical edition they falsely advertised.

and you didn't say anything about DRM free either, try to be accurate.

Right above your first post, but I get it, reading is hard.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Exactly, that's why they only deliver your physically drm free editions, but not the DRM free physical edition they falsely advertised.

Which part of "the game code will not include DRM" leads you to think that the game has DRM?

 

[Cmdr Andy B]

Right above your first post, but I get it, reading is hard.

look at the time stamps, you posted as i was typing, how can i read something that has yet to be published?

 

[jamotide]

Which part of "the game code will not include DRM" leads you to think that the game has DRM?

Nothing led me to that conclusion, that is why I backed the game. That is why they need to issue a full refund now.

look at the time stamps, you posted as i was typing, how can i read something that has yet to be published?

You had plenty of chance to read it since then, yet you still insisted.