The frequency of Empire rank missions and the nature of them

Hi,

I bought the game in Beta; and I have been enjoying it ever since. I have recently decided to try and move up with the Empire.

A couple of us in this thread have been trying to work out how to get Empire ranks. From 11 pages of observations, it seems to be the case that you jump around aimlessly in Empire space; you must pack some combat stabilizers, non-lethal weapons and some personal weapons, because the missions are 10 minutes long and these are all that they demand. Unfortunately, these commodities are rare, so always having them on hand is the only way to do the missions.
Most of us have been able to achieve the rank of Outsider. One or two have achieved the rank of Serf. None have reported anything higher than that. I am personally an Outsider myself.

I think this aimless jumping around needs to be changed. I understand that achieving the rank of Baron for an Imperial Clipper should not be easy, but 22 million credits is no cake-walk either, especially after the rare goods nerf. It is, after all, the Imperial Navy.
I just want them to be far clearer than they are now.
GalNet could be of great use here: headlines could tell you where to go. A headline like 'Empire military resources stretched thin in Cemeiss war, ex-soldier says'. Logically, the player will then know to get to Cemeiss, as the Imperial recruiters there are going to take whatever they've got, so long as they can prove themselves useful via combat - which would mean that ranks would be offered as reward for those 'sorties' missions, where you kill x pirates/bounty hunters/smugglers/traders/civilians/authority and get a rank up instead of money.
Alternatively, the first rank (which should be hard IMO; keep it as it is because it looks like the Empire is desperate enough to recruit rookie pilots in dictatorships. Getting in should be the hardest bit) would give access to the navy system near Achenar and Cemeiss (forgot the name) - where proper rank missions could be attained. They get harder as you rank up, and these would be unlike regular bulletin board missions, they would have a functionally infinite timer, and they'd tell you to do something worthy of a rank-up. Perhaps you need to cash in a certain amount of bounty vouchers or perhaps you need to get a certain number of kills. Open to suggestions.

To conclude, I think that the current way of achieving rank within both the Federation and the Empire is not difficult, but rather luck-based, and this is much more the case with the Empire, where it seems that you're more likely to run into a Shiny Charizard at the bulletin board than one of these missions. I would like it if it was far more clear what needed to be done. They should still be difficult and take a while, but the rank should go to who's the best pilot, not who can visit the most bulletin boards per hour.
 
I was having some of the same thoughts and then I had a moment one morning where I stopped to think about it. Perhaps the progression is there, perhaps it's faster. Perhaps we're just seeing the toehold mission. Maybe it's in a USS, after all i've seen Wedding Barges and Tech Traders and merchants willing to bribe me not to shoot their pirate friends.

Maybe someone out there is sending you a beacon that you're ignoring and/or is random that will help you progress more.

After all, this isn't a game about progression as much as it is a game about discovery.
 
Maybe someone out there is sending you a beacon that you're ignoring and/or is random that will help you progress more.

After all, this isn't a game about progression as much as it is a game about discovery.

I agree, and you should have to look around to a certain extent.

I understand that it's about discovery, and that makes it difficult and therefore supposedly fun, but in my mind there are two types of difficulty.

- Exciting/fun difficulty (e.g Taking out an Anaconda with a 70k bounty)
- Tedious difficulty (these missions)

I need to get to the rank of Baron in order to give my money to the Empire for their nice ship. The missions definitely seem to get less common as you rank up, the amount of Serfs versus the amount of Outsiders in the thread is testament to that. If it's difficult/rare to get to Serf, imaging ~6 ranks up or so for Baron. It appears to be the case that it's exclusively bulletin board (why? Because if someone found a rank-up as a reward, after they buddied up with a lone authority vessel and fought off waves of pirates in a USS, I have a hard time believing that they would keep that to themselves), so what would be different in the Empire? People have gotten further than me, but that's because they just happened to find a mission somewhere; so maybe there is faster progression. But to have the only way to progress in a vital part of the game hidden away is just bad game design, IMO. The USS thing would be super cool, but I have a chronic fear of those because of how common Anacondas and Dropships seem to be in deep space.
 
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I read the Federation and Alliance hand out missions to gain rank very quickly and to more or less anyone. Yet the Empire I have not seen a single navy mission at all since Gamma was released.
 
Just as a counter observation, I've been trying to get federal navy rank while trying not to annoy the empire, and I got offered the Outsider mission within minutes of the Recruit one today. I am now navy ranked with both.
 
I read the Federation and Alliance hand out missions to gain rank very quickly and to more or less anyone. Yet the Empire I have not seen a single navy mission at all since Gamma was released.

You can find Empire navy missions in Empire dictatorship systems.
 
I have spent the last 2 hours trying to find combat stabilizers, I even went to some stations that claimed they were exporting them. Turns out that was also a lie. The Emperor must find out how incompetent and corrupt his Navy officials are because I'm sure he does not sanction this time wasting of his loyal subjects. :(
 
I read the Federation and Alliance hand out missions to gain rank very quickly and to more or less anyone. Yet the Empire I have not seen a single navy mission at all since Gamma was released.

was the same in frontier, i went through hell to try and get the imps to give me missions, the feds used to chase me about waving medals at me and offering their first born children.
 
I reached the rank of master today, and heared about players that reached the rank of Lord... so there ist much to do for the Empire.
 
just got this from Sorbago BB.

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Sorbago is a Patronage.
Mission time is over 3 hrs (in fact of the last 3 i had, two were 2hrs or just over and the other was just over an hour)
 
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This seems to have been fixed now. I've now reached rank 3 Master. I've heard that other cmdrs have reached Baron (rank 7 I think). Good work FD.
 
Yes just this morning I popped in and first bulletin i checked was a 2h + ascension mission. Unfortunately it was to acquire Combat Stabalizers, which is like finding a leprechaun in the Empire system. I spent every single minute of that time scouring systems, looking for trade data, going to high tech dictatorships and visiting stations that exported medical equipment in general and didn't have stabalizers prohibited. I found some places that weren't against selling them, but none had any stock.

So, I failed the mission. The silver lining here though is they may have patched the way those missions show up, so we actually now have enough time to accept them. Oh if only I had the basic medications one you posted there.... I saw those all over the place!
 
Yes just this morning I popped in and first bulletin i checked was a 2h + ascension mission. Unfortunately it was to acquire Combat Stabalizers, which is like finding a leprechaun in the Empire system. I spent every single minute of that time scouring systems, looking for trade data, going to high tech dictatorships and visiting stations that exported medical equipment in general and didn't have stabalizers prohibited. I found some places that weren't against selling them, but none had any stock.

So, I failed the mission. The silver lining here though is they may have patched the way those missions show up, so we actually now have enough time to accept them. Oh if only I had the basic medications one you posted there.... I saw those all over the place!

try thrudds trade tool or the other one whose name escapes me at the moment to find commodities. i did have to travel over 50LY from sorbago to find some.

oh and that mission i just did was like a normal "here take this shizz to X system plz thx", i didn't need to source the basic meds, they gave em to me.
 
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So I found some combat stabilizers in Gende and from a 2h 30min mission I got back with 4 minutes to spare and just for added drama I got the dreaded cannot connect to server on the bulletin board twice before I got in with about 2 mins to spare. That was fun but was incredibly close to disaster. I am now a outsider which doesn't sound that great but onwards and upwards.
 
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