I am starting to not want to play this till this gets fixed. I just lost my ship due to this crap and I'm irritated now. I clearly shot at a guy firing at my ship, WANTED no less, and i get a bounty? I don't understand it. I go to dock at a station to pay bounty off and Im obliterated by the station guns. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but this is in fact a horribly nasty bug that needs to be fixed ASAP.
extremely irritated with the bounty glitch.
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If true, and you waited for a full scan of him and it clearly said Wanted in the bottom left, then yes it is a bug and you should ticket it.
Getting blown up by a station when you have a Bounty though (regardless of the cause of getting it) is entirely on you however.
Another thing I don't quite understand, bug or otherwise, is if I land at an unidenfitied signal and lets say there are 4 ships, 2 are wanted 2 are federal security ships (police). If I attack the wanted guys, the federal ships attack me, yet I can't fire at them as they are deemed clean. I don't understand, why am I being attacked by the federal guys if the other 2 are wanted??? None of this makes any sense to me
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thing is, i've had bounties before and landed at stations without anything. This is the first time I've ever been blown up at a station for having a bounty. I did nothing to engage anyone or anythign, only had 200 cred bounty.
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I had 0 bounties. Anything I had from prior incidents of this type, this is about the 3rd time I've experienced this, I paid off. And ironically I flew to a station to pay it off and never got blown up.
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thing is, i've had bounties before and landed at stations without anything. This is the first time I've ever been blown up at a station for having a bounty. I did nothing to engage anyone or anythign, only had 200 cred bounty.
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I had 0 bounties. Anything I had from prior incidents of this type, this is about the 3rd time I've experienced this, I paid off. And ironically I flew to a station to pay it off and never got blown up.
Sargon
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Make sure you don't open fire within a station or near a station.
Make sure you scan the ships to verify that they are Wanted.
Also, note, that even if they're wanted.. if they're allied with the faction that has other ships in the area... they can go aggro on you.
Sometimes they'll turn red yet not fire though.
Make sure you scan the ships to verify that they are Wanted.
Also, note, that even if they're wanted.. if they're allied with the faction that has other ships in the area... they can go aggro on you.
Sometimes they'll turn red yet not fire though.
It sounds very much to me as if you are firing on targets before scanning them properly, although it could be a bug that needs ticketing, I've never experienced it.
If you shoot a target before scanning it properly, so it shows as wanted, you will get an immediate fine and bounty. So make sure you scan targets fully before shooting at them. Any cops in the area will start shooting you as you are now a wanted criminal.
If you managed to get into a station a few times before without getting scanned by cops or station security outside it, then you have been a bit lucky, that is all. If you have a bounty on your head and get scanned near a station, the authorities take a dim view of felons and will obliterate you.
If you pick up a Bounty head not for a station, but to an Outpost to pay it off. Most Outposts (but not all, for example military outposts) have no security so you can land without danger of being scanned. Alternatively head to an Anarchy system and dock there to pay off your bounty.
Check the faction the ships are a part of which have wanted status
Use your left control console menu, navigate to the contacts list, and once you've scanned and identified the ships with you, verify their faction is not the same. Other wise, they will aggro you if they are part of the same faction.
Use your left control console menu, navigate to the contacts list, and once you've scanned and identified the ships with you, verify their faction is not the same. Other wise, they will aggro you if they are part of the same faction.
I think that's Fed way to say "thank you"... Never happened (for me) at Empire. But, if you grace them even with a spark of light, bad things gonna happen.
Anyway, always... KWS - not just Anarchy systems.
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The only thing I know before I shot at him was he had nothing like <Federal Security Ship> etc... I didn't have time to check my left nav. I wasn't fired during the confrontation only after I left the encounter, travelled to the station and attempted to dock. Which in itself is odd as if they were federation the FSS would have shot at me during the confrontation.
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I've done alot of unident sites with this type of thing, 3rd time acquiring bounty on wanted targets and first time being blown up at a station with bounty/wanted.
If you ever get a bounty on your head, go to outposts ... they don't gun you down.
To clarify this even more, just so you understand OP, do not use your KWS to determine if they are wanted elsewhere before just letting the regular scan run. Only if they are wanted in the system where you are are they safe-ish to attack. As mentioned, if they are friendly with the local faction then that can cause you problems, although personally i've never experienced this.
I posted are reply to this no idea where it went...
ANYWAY, A. I had the one targeted fully engaged, destroyed no bounty. Second one I saw wanted, openned fire got the bounty. Wasn't attacked by the 2 fed ships, the scenario which I was describing with the 4 ships wasn't exactly concurrent with what just happened where I gained bounty, they are 2 seperate incidents. Anyway as I said wasn't attackec by the 2 fed ships when I got the bounty, only after I destroyed the second wanted ship and being scanned by the 2 remaining fed ships did they say I was wanted, and fire on me. They didn't fire on me, that I noticed although they were red to me on my radar, to my knowledge until after both wanted targets were destroyed. I don't know none of this makes sense I want to say bug unless they prove it was legit in which case I haven't a clue period. I have been doing things cut and dry for the past few days only now have I been having the issues like this. Very first time I experienced anythign like this, ironically have another post about it, is when I tested a pulse turret, not a point defense turret, and the turret was attacking anything red on the radar. I was told I had to set the turret to attack current target so I just ditched the pulse turret altogether. This doesn't apply at all to this incident though. I don't know will put in for a bug report on this, soon as I can figure out how :X.
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I don't currently have a kill warrant scanner, I just go by the wanted level. So wait let me ask this then, if it says on the regular sensor scanner, NAME, ship, wanted/clean, and they are wanted does this mean they can be clean with a specific faction and if so if they are hanging out with federation ships theres a chance they are clean with them? This is getting even more confusing now :/.
Clarity on the kill warrant scanner: If you only discover they have a bounty with the KWS, but they were clean locally, shooting them is a crime. They could have a 100k bounty in the system next door, they are clean locally. Fire on them get a small bounty, kill them, get charged with murder and a large bounty.
I'm still confused if I don't even have a KWS and it says wanted, does that mean I have the right to shoot in an attempt to claim the bounty? If so then what happened to be was in fact a bug because the wanted appeared during the basic scan. I honestly can't make heads or tails now, ppl are throwing more info in and its just getting me more confused :/.
It -might- mean they're clean (I'm not entirely sure) with the system you're at, I've come to habit of KWS'ing everyone who wants a bite of me - so far, regardless of their allegiance, I've turned out to be on the winning side - but just to be on the sure side, always, let them ping your shields before opening fire yourself --- winner isn't the one who's right, but whom the cops deem to be right.
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Once somebody shoots at you, waiting for the scan should really not be a requirement, that's just silly.
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Yes, if you have no KWS and they show as "Wanted", you have every right to shoot and kill them. You just have to wait for the "Wanted" to actually show up, if you fire at a Wanted target before determining that it is, indeed, Wanted, you get a bounty too. But in your case the other guy shot first you say, so no matter how you twist and turn it, your case very much sounds like one of those "wonky AI/IFF" cases I've come across a few times. Some people will vehemently deny there's anything wrong with AI/IFF in this game, though.
I've never been attacked at a station for having an assault bounty.
So far as I know, this can only happen when you're hostile to the faction owning the station. Which could happen if you've made a habit of killing targets not properly marked as wanted. Or, possibly, even just frequently accruing crimes which give you negative rep.
Out of interest, what does your crimes statistics info say?
Mine reads 2 crimes, 1000c in fines.
So far as I know, this can only happen when you're hostile to the faction owning the station. Which could happen if you've made a habit of killing targets not properly marked as wanted. Or, possibly, even just frequently accruing crimes which give you negative rep.
Out of interest, what does your crimes statistics info say?
Mine reads 2 crimes, 1000c in fines.
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