does not the fact that I am constantly seeing real players in mobius and those of you in open - because pvp is so popular and good for the game - see next to no one not give you all some indication of the real issue. I play there for because my net connection makes npc combat all but impossible and pvp is a pure death sentance, even avoiding interdictions for me is damned hard, I have a good download speed yes but my latency to the amazon servers is around 400ms the rubberbanding etc is brutal. I just lost everything due to an NPC rubberbanding through my firing line causing a 200c fine and wanted, only to get scanned and by the station once I was inside and almost on the deck. playing pvp for me is an absolute no go. add this to the fact pirates want us to be friendly and drop our cargo with not a shot fired - do this and they get no record/bounty they stay clean and then the bounty hunters have no one to chase. then there are those who have the wish to keep their ingame asests in one piece because of the time it takes to repair etc for one fire fight. yep mobius group has over 1800 members and I regularly count 200 odd on at once and I see that in game. Surely this points to how the majority of people want to play, that and the fact that it seems a lot of players in open dissapear to the far reaches themselves to avoid pvp.