This need saying...

[The Brigadier]

Hey,

I'm glad you've found a tool that helps you enjoy the game. For me personally, 3rd party trading tools really detract from the game. I love figuring out juicy new trade routes. For me, that's the most fun part of trading. Combining exploring and trading is great fun too.


Glad you're achieving what you want to.

 

[Zmidponk]

I reset my save at release, and haven't played that much since then, but I've been having fun combining trading and exploring - I'm in a Hauler with a slightly upgraded FSD, giving me ~10LY jump range when fully laden, and every station I stop at, I'm filling up my cargohold with what looks like a reasonably cheap cargo, and jumping to an 'exports to' system that I don't recognise the name of. I'm not pulling in huge amounts of credits, but my bank balance is generally going in the right direction, I'm getting close to having enough to switch to a Cobra and continue doing the same thing, and I'm not getting a feeling of grind that would come from going back and forth over the same trade route again and again.

 

[Gelbrock]

130k cr profit one way and 35k profit the other.

One jump each way. 5 mins.

104 ton space.

I do a few trade runs then switch to pimped Cobra and do some killing.

Depends on:

1 - If kids are around (trade)
2 - If wife is around (trade, with kill switch that brings up net page showing holiday destinations for next July)
3 - If everyone else asleep and Im sober. (fighting, adventure, missions, full immersion, headphones YEEEEEEEEEAH.... etc)
4 - If everyone else asleep and Im intoxicated. (trade.... very.... very... slowly)
5 - If everyone else asleep and Im very intoxicated.... (sit and look at spinning wire frame cobra from original game whilst humming 2001 space odyssey theme wearing nothing but a bra on my head..... OR trade with nothing more then Food Cartridges....)

 

[shrinkshooter]

2 - If wife is around (trade, with kill switch that brings up net page showing holiday destinations for next July)

You have to hide ED from your wife? :C

Well...not THAT kind of ED. You know what I mean.

 

[DYSEQTA]

So a thread to tell everyone that you started succeeding once you used a third party tool to cheat. Nice.

 

[Richard Voorhees]

Well that's the thing, I've been bumping my rep up at a faction for weeks for 4-10 k credits, for what?? I can make 100k in 5 mins now.

I've been bumping up my rep with one of the factions, but I've managed about 55-60k per round trip doing it. That's only travelling back and forward between two systems just over 11ly apart.

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So a thread to tell everyone that you started succeeding once you used a third party tool to cheat. Nice.

Have some rep......then go and chill out.

 

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[Zeeman]

Too bad you didn't try to discover the prices on your own. It's a real joy to find roundtrips that pays 2000-2700 cr profit per ton. Notepad++, screenshots and a few textfiles was all I needed back then. A real sense of accomplishment which is crucial to how I experience the game. And for that reason it's worth staying away from 3'rd party pricelists.
But then again it's all up to you how you make the journey in Elite.

Good luck, Commander. o7

Really shouldn't need to take screen shots. The com. market of any system you visit *really* should be available to you at any time - in game. As it was when you were there, of course, not updating prices - so info for systems you have not visited in a few weeks will be way out of date, but taking screenshots and jotting notes should really not be needed.

Z...

 

[HardstyleFlavor]

I could not agree more.
Many times the enemy would kill me while bountyhunting untill I found this aimbot online.
The amount of fun I am having right now is incredible, I NEVER MISS!!!!! and credits are coming in finally! I am allmost Elite too!
so much more fun than playing vanilla.

Lolwut?

I hope your playing solo at least, but if your going to hack then you shouldn't advertise it on the official forums. Try MPGH if your into that stuff.

 

[jgm]

Lolwut?

I hope your playing solo at least, but if your going to hack then you shouldn't advertise it on the official forums. Try MPGH if your into that stuff.

I think you'll find it was a comparison to point out that use of third-party tools has a very different perception depending on the activity.

Personally I'm making decent money bounty hunting, having done my share of trading and exploring (I even shot rocks for a while). I also pick up missions whenever they take my fancy and am both enjoying the game and making money doing so.

Trading isn't the only way.

 

[Mythrandier]

I think this just shows currently how broken for a better use the current "Career" decisions are. The only thing that isnt RNG based is the only way to make good money.

Indeed.

A freind of mine lost his type 6 (with full hold) while we were on skype at the weekend. Insurance gave him his ship back but left him no spare ISK. He sold his sheilds and weapons and within 2 hours was sitting on 2.5 million.

I was sat at a nav beacon in my 2.5 million Cobra, I made 260,000 in the same 2 hours.

Given my play time limitations if I ever want to get a Python im going to have trade, something I have no interest in doing as it just feels like a second job to me.

Why does one career choice pay 10 times more than another?

 

[CMNDRMK]

Indeed.

A freind of mine lost his type 6 (with full hold) while we were on skype at the weekend. Insurance gave him his ship back but left him no spare ISK. He sold his sheilds and weapons and within 2 hours was sitting on 2.5 million.

I was sat at a nav beacon in my 2.5 million Cobra, I made 260,000 in the same 2 hours.

Given my play time limitations if I ever want to get a Python im going to have trade, something I have no interest in doing as it just feels like a second job to me.

Why does one career choice pay 10 times more than another?

Why does the play style that seems like a grind pay more? Seems like the answer is in the question.

Credits earnt inversely related to fun had seems like a good game design to me, as at least the player is always being rewarded in some manner.

 

[Mythrandier]

Why does the play style that seems like a grind pay more? Seems like the answer is in the question.

Credits earnt inversely related to fun had seems like a good game design to me, as at least the player is always being rewarded in some manner.

I disagree. I have a job already and I wont spend my free time doing something I dont enjoy.

The whole slogan of playing this game how you want should be ammended to include 'as long as thats trading'

 

[Lobstris]

In the two previous iterations of Elite trading lead to bigger ships, which lead to an exponential growth of wealth. But as I never found the big ships satisfying, I always ended up trading back down to an Asp or Cobra, and then doing other stuff. This time around I'm just sticking with the Cobra and seeing how long it takes to trick that out, before putting it in a garage, then trying the same on an Asp.

 

[CMNDRMK]

I disagree. I have a job already and I wont spend my free time doing something I dont enjoy.

The whole slogan of playing this game how you want should be ammended to include 'as long as thats trading'

No one is stopping you playing the game the way you do enjoy/want. Its your obsession with an arbitrary score counter that is causing the problem.

Trading is a more sedate, grindy way to play the game so it rewards in credits, other ways of playing reward via fun itself, via the activitity itself.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I'm making decent money at the moment bounty hunting before i go back to my main trade of exploring. Just got over 100k for taking out a Python. That was fun... especially the bit about avoiding the SA Anaconda that was also after it... those buggers are slow but you dont want to get in their way. Choo choo!

 

[Mythrandier]

No one is stopping you playing the game the way you do enjoy/want. Its your obsession with an arbitrary score counter that is causing the problem.

Trading is a more sedate, grindy way to play the game so it rewards in credits, other ways of playing reward via fun itself, via the activitity itself.

So inquring as to why one method of play pays out in progression (credits being the only method of progression in this game) by a facotor of 10, is obsession?

 

[WalterHWhite]

While that 3rd party tool probably does a better job of showing trade routes that the galactic map doesn't... it seems like it's taking the credit grind too seriously, IMO. As tempting as it is, I won't be using it.

 

[CMNDRMK]

So inquring as to why one method of play pays out in progression (credits being the only method of progression in this game) by a facotor of 10, is obsession?

Nice try at moving the goal posts. The obssesionb comes from the comment that you made that you can play the way you want as long as it involves trading.

The whole slogan of playing this game how you want should be ammended to include 'as long as thats trading'

No one is stopping you play however you want when you want, you could only feel forced to trade if you are "obssesed" with credits and/or "Progessing".

I play to have fun, progression is a part of that, but most of the fun comes iherently from the activity of just playing the game. Playing just to progress, that really sounds like work

 

[DanottiTR]

I've played from release fumbling about making a few credits trading and bounty hunting here and there then I found a link to a trade tool and bingo, dropped the bounty USS nonsense and started trading and the credits are rolling in. Shame I had to stumble across a third party toll to make any decent financial progress in the game.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

the fun part of the game is to find that route yourself oldschool style.Any trade route 3rd party tool will kill the fun of the game which will make you earn credits so fast that at the end you will get your biggest ship and then say hey ho ı finished the game lack of end game content .....boring .... and bla bla bla ....