What kind of anarchy is this?

Countries can fall in to anarchy. It doesn't mean all factions and organisations vanish overnight, just that nobody has things under control.
 
The "cops" in anarchy system usualy belong to the biggest faction. I think they could be explained as mercenaries hired to protect the key points of interest of this major faction. I am quite OK about them, but they should be named different, there is also no bounty on your head, if you kill them.

Not all independnt systems are anarchy, other than anarchy have their own bounties only valid in that system.

There where two factions with security vessels. The independent system authority vessels and federal security vessels. As I said earlier that makes sense, if they are both trying to get control over the anarchy system. What confuses me is that both factions started to attack me after I attacked my target. So the criminal seemed to be allied with both factions? Sounds like a bug to me, but I'm no longer there and dont remember the system name, so I cant write a ticket about it or do some further tests.
 
The Federal Outpost has security simply because it's the Federation controlling that space - They believe in that sort of thing.

The same thing happens in Anarchy space with Imperial outposts. The overall space has no law, but that local space, near the station, has law imposed.
 
That is the whole point of Anarchy, it is down to the individual to control their life and not be controlled by anyone else. Minding your own business...

Well not really.. there is no point to anarchy. It's an absence not a thing in itself. The individual might very well be controlled by others and will very likely suffer from the influence of others around them.
 
Anarchy means that the major faction which controls huge parts of the system does not give you bounties in that space they control.
There might be sections that are regulated however, and there will always be some federal douchebags trying to enfoce the law in the anarchic areas.
 
To alric:

With the utmost respect I suggest you read a little more about Anarchy then.
 
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To alric:

With the utmost respect I suggest you read a little more about Anarchy then.

anarchy
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control:
The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3.
anarchism (def 1).
4.
lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination:
the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5.
confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves.
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.
 
To alric:

With the utmost respect I suggest you read a little more about Anarchy then.

More important than Alric would be for someone at FD to read about it. I find it very unsatisfying that for all the variety of governments in the galaxy they are all very control oriented and Anarchy is just a synonym for "pirate hangout". I would love to see some anti-control governments like minarchism, libertarianism and yes, several flavors of anarchism. I have this vain hope that in the next 12 centuries humankind can actually develop a little... I know it is silly, but hey this is a game - anything can happen :p

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Oh common, you can't throw books at people about Anarchism and not mention Rothbard :D
 
Slightly different thing though. Anarchism and anarchist movements today aren't the same thing anarchy as it's used in game. In game it describes a system lacking in law and order - even if that's because no living thing has ever been there.
 
anarchy
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control:
The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3.
anarchism (def 1).
4.
lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination:
the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5.
confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves.
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.

Very incomplete list, as the most important form of anarchy is missing. Its quite the opposite from the definitions you posted above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

But I think there is little gain in discussing the various forms of anarchy in this forum ;)
 
Again, that's anarchism, which is not the same thing. As in Frontier, the context here is a system is controlled by x, y, z or it's in anarchy a s in "a state of society without government or law".

There might well be groups within the game who subscribe to an anarchic philosophy, but most of the void does not subscribe to any philosophy.
 
anarchy
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control:
The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3.
anarchism (def 1).
4.
lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination:
the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5.
confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves.
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.

That was funny to read. Nothing even close to the real definition but funny. What is described in that text is anomy, not anarchy. As Shabbyj said, give a go to some real reading if the subject interests you. And it should :)

Anarchism is essentialy an economy based doctrin, and a really nice one at that. Anarchy would be its application.
 
I cba to read the entire thread but..... think back a year or two ago. NATO, Russian, Indian, and Chinese naval vessels patrolled off the Horn Of Africa. There was piracy aplenty, much of it (at the time) based in Somalia / Eritrea.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy

The word anarchy comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία (anarchia), which combines ἀν (an), "not, without" and ἀρχός (arkhos), "ruler, leader." Thus, the term refers to a person or society "without rulers" or "without leaders."

I was scanned in an Anarchy system by "System Authority" ships and fined. I was fined by Pirates for having "illegal" goods....LOL....ummm....what!?
 

Remiel

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Not exactly, no. No wonder why the word is so misused. I won't start a dissert on the subject, as this is not the place, but anarchy does not mean, (and has never meant) "no law". It means, if we need to make a crude sum up, "no authority". A true anarchist society is probably the most regulated, efficient society there is.

Wut? Historical examples, and citations, needed.
 
anarchy
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control:
The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3.
anarchism (def 1).
4.
lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination:
the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5.
confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves.
Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.



Did that come from the establishments, little book of propaganda?
 
No it doesn't. INDEPENDENT means "no jurisdiction from the major factions. Simple.". Independent can be anarchy but can also be something else (democracy, patronage, communism, etc)

ANARCHY means "no government" - you know, like system authority. Now if we really want to get technical about anarchism it could be expected (in anarcho capitalism at least, not so much in other types) that the system faction still protects at least its own members and quite likely external entities as well in its own interest of growth and economic prosperity. Still this should be done through normal ships belonging to that faction and not system authority ships which will have the same behavior as normal cops (e.g. giving you a fine in anarchy system).

However one should note that in game there is no real distinction between several types of anarchism and it is being used as a blanket statement for "system controlled by rogue organizations" (i.e. pirates and smugglers). Unless you're shooting one of their friends they should not care. If you are being shot by someone they should not care either unless you're friendly / allied with and most definitely they should NOT give you fines for doing illegal stuff. Their organization is all about illegal stuff and unlike the government they should be fine with the competition (and in fact recruit you).

Independent can be under patronage and under jurisdiction of major factions. If you have a bounty on your neck you feel this all the way through as both local faction and Feds ( in my case ) will hunt me down.

Anarchic system are more lenient but you can also be wanted by one of their factions ( usually the most influential one ) and here in lies the difference. It is not the entire system that wants you so you fly free most of the time.

If you haven't tried it yet grab a few dozen thousand on your neck and simply travel around and test it :) good fun for a while. Then interdiction starts to get more serious the more hunters you kill and the more sec patrols you fight off.
 
Wanted to do some bounty hunting at ressource extraction sites in an anarchy system. Felt lucky when I discovered one whith a Federal Outpost, so I could get my bounties paid. But the RES is crowded with System Authorities. So I dont get a bounty on my head for attacking clean targets and those eagles dont do much harm to my viper, but isnt an anarchy supposed to be free of cops? Thought it would be a good idea to seek an anarchy system for bounty hunting since I believed I wouldnt have trouble with factions and security vessels.

I think this is a dev oversight. Just go to the nav beacon and there should not be any space cops.
 
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