The Paint Job Prices, Pretty Hefty Yeah?

Lovecraft

Lovecraft
Remiel said:
Paint jobs are cosmetic and you are not entitled to them by virtue of buying the game alone. You get everything you pay for with your $60, and ship skins are extra content that are not necessary for the game to function as advertised. They are vanity items and if you want them, you'll cough up the asking price, or you can't have them. It's that simple.
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Are you entitled to them when you buy them from the store? Not sure what you're trying to say here. If it's "don't like it, don't buy it", then that's a little short sighted, don't you think?

Paint jobs and vanity items could be a great revenue stream for a game that otherwise has a finite income (other than new players and expansions). If the vanity items are enticing enough, players will buy them, and Frontier could do all kinds of things with extra income. As it is, there is currently little benefit to the player buying them so they buy less (if any), and the end result is Frontier have less revenue than they could have. I'd rather Frontier get all the money they deserve.
 

erfahrung

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Space said:
The backers were so happy about supporting frontier that they do not even care about being able to get paintjobs in game. Frontier had a who kickstarter post about this, but now it's just a locked feature that costs real money.
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Well we were supposed to be able to make mods of such things...
 

IceFire122

IceFire122
I see the paint jobs as they were announced to be:
An alternative way of continuously supporting the devs instead of a monthly fee or pay-to-win.
As was pointed out correctly, FD is a company and has to earn money especially in the times between releases of the game/expansions. They tested to do this with the paint jobs during beta/gamma and apparently keep it for now. However, the Cobra skins seem to have gone from the shop.

If you think about the paint jobs as donations to FD with additional benefit, you can accept the current prices. The selection is somewhat limited right now, which effectively limits the amount of "donations" from a single player.

BTW: There was a sale on Black Friday weekend (50% off and Cobra skin pack for free). Hence, I would hope that there is another sale in the future.
 

Vasea Azure

Vasea Azure
I bought the blue Cobra skin for 2 GBP - not sure how it looks like on my ship because of the FD decision to deliberately forbid us to fully view our ships, but it was worth it.
 

timbow

timbow
Well I play with friends, all have paint jobs, we can see each others just fine. Not overly concerned at not being able to look at my own ship unless it is in the garage (outfitting). I don't get out of my car to have a look at it while driving down the motorway, and I paid a lot more for it. ..
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
No, it's not too expensive. It's exactly the right price. The world doesn't change its price just for your budget.
 

Davidtq

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Most paint jobs are pocket money prices, helps support the servers and development, I think they are priced just fine. I also think more people should buy bright paint jobs it makes targetting easier when fighting without gimbals.
 

Ulysses_W

Ulysses_W
I bought every skin available. I don't intend to even buy some of the ships they go on.
I bought them to continue to support the game.

But I am pootling about in a red ignition cobra emblazoned with skulls :D
 

internal.memory

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mordin86 said:
I would pay a lot for interior mods to be honest.
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Honestly, if all they did was add a neon color to the cockpit or uniform that matched the 'theme' of the paint job. If they themed the cockpit the same way as the exterior, then I'd say all of the skins would be worth their full price. But right now, I don't see my own paint, and nobody else really seems my paint since I'll be completely blunt and say that most people don't play this game in a group, most people just play it and do their own thing. There is what seems statistically to be a small portion maybe 20%-28% of people actually play in a group - this leaves that most other people don't even bother with looking at your paint jobs.

And someone mentioned that the paint jobs were not advertised for the game experience as a whole, but to the contrary that if you watch their trailer (cinematic trailer) you will see several ships in there with custom paint jobs. But I won't hold that to them lol. Most cinematic trailers for games are not 100% to the actual game, most aren't even 60% of what the actual game is.

Now many people also mention that the skins is a way to keep supporting the development team. But from what I was to believe is that THE GAME is what was created to further fund the developers. Or else they wouldn't have released it as a full finished game then, them releasing it was them being confident the game would work and sell. Frontier doesn't need (and shouldn't) need to rely on selling unseen ship paints to further fund their development - Frontier needs to focus on more game marketing and advertising. And this I say for pure experience, because I have been dying for this game and Star Crapizin to come out for 2 years, and when this game finally did come out I honestly had no idea because there was almost no "buzz" about it and no mention about it on Facebook, gaming communities, Steam, Youtube, almost nowhere. The only reason I even learned that Elite: Dangerous was released was a fluke spotting while skimming around on my phone one late night. By that time the game was already out for two days, which ruined my chances for preordering it. This tells me that they need to focus less on microtransactions and focus more on getting the word of their game out.

Also... It would be good for them to focus on getting the word out just because I'm sick and tired of Chris Roberts stealing the ill-gotten soul out of the space simulation genre. His game will never release, he'll just keep stealing everyone's money until he buys himself a mansion that's on top of a yacht, then he'll say "f u got mine".
 

Vasious

Vasious
internal.memory said:
So am I the only person who thinks that the paints/skins on the website store are a bit steep for what they are? I mean... $3+ dollars for the very cheapest paint you can get for one single ship is pretty bad, and that's just the cheapest. The Viper has a Gold paint, one single paint for one single ship for over 17 dollars. You can have bought 20 games on Steam with that kind of money. Heck, just today I bought 20 Command & Conquer games for 75% cheaper than 17 dollars.

So... this is where the real problem no one will ever admit comes into play. Yeah lets say you spend 18 dollars for the 6 skins for a Viper - BUT - the only person who will Ever see it is yourself and ONLY when you go to outfit your ship. I know this game tried to emphasize as much as it could on multiplayer aspects but from what I've played for several weeks is that the only MP interaction is when you're at stations docking or undocking. Other than that you almost never interact with anyone, and 90% of the time if you do, you're never close enough to see their paint because they're 200-700L/s away.

So with that being said, personally I believe that the game being $60 dollars alone, and while every other videogame retailer had a sale for the holidays (all but Frontier and E:D) - that the $60 dollar price point for the game alone should warrant that the ship paints be a lower price. And by any luck, lower the price of the paints and it'll encourage more people to buy them. With the encouragement you have more people purchasing them, and with that it will allow the funding to create more paints to sell.
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I forgo one cup of coffee at the local café at lunch and get a ship skin, no issues there.
Was well worth the price when I could pick my viper out watching someone else's video of a group skirmish I was in.
 
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