Why do players seem to always run?

[fergal]

First off, 99% of play time is as a peaceful trader or explorer, I have a bunch of Eagle's and Cobra's dotted around inhabited space but nearly all my time is doing rares and hauling stuff in a Clipper. Have made quite a lot of cash so decided to just cruise around and hunt for a bit.

Have done all the warzone stuff but wanted to test the ship out on some real players. Didn't want to be an A-hole, so set myself some rules, would not interdict a clean player in a policed system, would not pick on anyone harmless in a sidy/hauler even if wanted (I used to get myself wanted for silly things when starting out)

Headed to all the Anarchy zones around Lave - Every time I pull a Cobra/viper/Eagle/Python out of SC they run... Mass lock on the Clipper is broken, I don't open fire because it's obvious they think I'm trying to grief, would probably see a forum topic here if I disabled the cmdr's thrusters :/

I could easily upgrade the Engines on my clipper so nobody can run, but I'm wondering where are the cmdr's looking for combat? Should I join a group?

I'm in Buricasses, feel free to interdict me
As far as I can tell there aren't really that many people looking to fight and I think the sight of your overpowered ship probably scares everyone who hasn't flown one.

I'd talk to people in supercruise. Its worked for me to find people interested in some PvP.

 

[DogTailRed2]

Being interdicted always seems to place me at a disadvantage.
The enemy is always at my six and seems to be able to loose off a shot before I can get good situational awareness.
Now my Winder has a rail gun, and missile defence I'm more likely to engage. But I'll run once I take serious damage.
Once I get a decent ship I'll stick around.
If you want combat track down some `unidentified transmissions`. Had some interesting encounters with AI pirates.

 

[Windscreen Smudge]

If I'm interdicted and I leave it's because I was doing more important things before you interrupted me. If I don't leave I was bored.

 

[andyl]

777Driver:

You know what you're up to, but they don't know what you're up to. There are way too many griefers out there that think every cobra is a target, clean or wanted. It doesn't matter what you do, they've set the rules, you have to live with the consequences of their actions.

You seem to have some personal honor, but you're not the one setting the rules, the griefer types are. They pull people out of SC and start firing immediately, no communications, just pew pew pew.

They've taken over Eravate, an independent and policed system, and many other systems, Anarchy systems are that much worse.

That is a shame about Eravate - it is close to one of the starting positions. That makes it much worse. Glad I moved out of that neighbourhood - as I haven't done much combat at all yet.

 

[Helvellyn]

That is a shame about Eravate - it is close to one of the starting positions. That makes it much worse. Glad I moved out of that neighbourhood - as I haven't done much combat at all yet.

I thought it seemed rather full of players when I passed through the other day to collect some Imperial bounties (it was just a mid-run jump so didn't stay long enough to see or do anything).

I could do with some PvP practice and feedback in order to get my skills up but so far I've had no PvP combat whatsoever. I don't fancy taking on anything much bigger than me though (or being the hostile party) so I'm afraid that I'd also run. Maybe I should just go back to Eravate in an Eagle or Sidewinder and see who interdicts me, loss when it goes pear-shaped won't be much.

 

[Corwyn]

That is a shame about Eravate - it is close to one of the starting positions. That makes it much worse. Glad I moved out of that neighbourhood - as I haven't done much combat at all yet.

You're so right. I moved away for a while, still in Open, then went back after a while, and found it taken over by griefers, so I went back to Solo and moved on elsewhere, let them have it, let them gank each other. In time, Open will only be the griefers.

 

[Remiel]

First off, 99% of play time is as a peaceful trader or explorer, I have a bunch of Eagle's and Cobra's dotted around inhabited space but nearly all my time is doing rares and hauling stuff in a Clipper. Have made quite a lot of cash so decided to just cruise around and hunt for a bit.

Have done all the warzone stuff but wanted to test the ship out on some real players. Didn't want to be an A-hole, so set myself some rules, would not interdict a clean player in a policed system, would not pick on anyone harmless in a sidy/hauler even if wanted (I used to get myself wanted for silly things when starting out)

Headed to all the Anarchy zones around Lave - Every time I pull a Cobra/viper/Eagle/Python out of SC they run... Mass lock on the Clipper is broken, I don't open fire because it's obvious they think I'm trying to grief, would probably see a forum topic here if I disabled the cmdr's thrusters :/

I could easily upgrade the Engines on my clipper so nobody can run, but I'm wondering where are the cmdr's looking for combat? Should I join a group?

At least they're not logging off on you, mate.

Put the Clipper down, and fly an Eagle. Bet they'll fight you then. Had two fight me already today, and one last night with a 2K bounty, in Barnard's Star.

 

[ash73]

I think the problem is it's too expensive when you die.

 

[Remiel]

777Driver:

You know what you're up to, but they don't know what you're up to. There are way too many griefers out there that think every cobra is a target, clean or wanted. It doesn't matter what you do, they've set the rules, you have to live with the consequences of their actions.

You seem to have some personal honor, but you're not the one setting the rules, the griefer types are. They pull people out of SC and start firing immediately, no communications, just pew pew pew.

They've taken over Eravate, an independent and policed system, and many other systems, Anarchy systems are that much worse.

Personally, I don't worry about it anymore, I've gone back to Solo, I want nothing to do with PvPers.

"griefer types"

Anything for a swing at your betters, huh?

I was in Eravate the day before yesterday. No griefers, lots of players.

And in what fantasy land do you try communicating with a target you intend to demolish and give him a chance in your moment of hesitation to get one up on you?

 

[Bozeman42]

I play in the rift, do have a voice attack profile to send messages tho, just never use it. I would have thought the fact that I am pulling you out of SC in an anarchy system would indicate I am looking for combat. Hell I'm not even saying fight to the death, but at least let's have a little scrap.

There are plenty of reasons to be in an anarchy system without wanting to get into combat. YOU might be looking for combat, THEY aren't. Maybe most people aren't in to PvP, thus it is hard to find willing PvPers.

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

Pull me out of warp and I might run to. And I have no issue with pulling you out of warp and attacking you.
And I would be major offended if you did not try to stop me from running, while I would blow you away for sure if you try to run.

And to get even closer to your point: Why would any sane person fight combat that has not only high chances of losing, but as well has a disadvantaged position. Besides I see a problem with a great lack of pirates in the game. I literally have no seen a player with a bounty on his head so far. How should I hunt them, when I can not find them?

 

[Rall]

I've no idea why people run, a combat Viper with a human at the stick would give a Clipper a real go. There's basically no risk at all for the Viper pilot. I've only got a 150K rebuy in a fully upgraded A Class Viper, I can make that back in 10 minutes at a RES, so why not duke it out?

Feel free to pull me up if you ever see me, I'll gladly stay and fight. But since the network code hates me and I'm basically playing solo permanently, I'm afraid we shall never meet on the field of battle.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

I fly a Clipper (a badly fitted one, without shields worth mentioning for the class and without any guns) - yes - in solo online. Simply because it doesn't make a lot of sense to fly a ship without shields or guns in open play (although given my previous experience, it doesn't make a whole lot of a difference).

If I'm in open and you see me, please feel free to attack me - I wont run (but I'l be in anything but a Clipper ).

And in what fantasy land do you try communicating with a target you intend to demolish and give him a chance in your moment of hesitation to get one up on you?

Elite: "Dangerous"

 

[ycodryn]

buy me a python and you will have to pay insurance every day if you are looking for a fight

 

[firemane]

I was in Eravate the day before yesterday. No griefers, lots of players.

I went to Eravate a couple days ago in open to help a friend. I was interdicted 3 times from the nav to the second station. Lol. I was flying a Cobra at the time.

A Clipper is just too unpredictable. It may be crappy, but most likely if it is in Open it is loaded. I wouldn't tangle. Sidewinders to Vipers are easier to gauge, so people tend to take the risk of engaging them more often.

 

[Garlus Tylapper]

Chase them down and kill them! Or at least give them the chance to eject the cargo, I would run if a clipper interdicted me, hell id run if a Lakon Hauler interdicted me.

 

[777Driver]

I fly a Clipper (a badly fitted one, without shields worth mentioning for the class and without any guns) - yes - in solo online. Simply because it doesn't make a lot of sense to fly a ship without shields or guns in open play (although given my previous experience, it doesn't make a whole lot of a difference).

If I'm in open and you see me, please feel free to attack me - I wont run (but I'l be in anything but a Clipper ).





Elite: "Dangerous"

That's a shame you are flying the Clipper in SOLO Kirk. I haven't been interdicted once in Open, was flying my clipper without shields back on forth hauling 248T of Cargo for quite a while. Let me know if you want to hook up for some rare good trips, the ship is now converted to haul 140T of rare cargo, making roughly the same amount of cash as a full freighter config, but more space to add shields and other modules. My Clipper is basically kitted out to be a hunter, but still hauls enough to bring in a few million on a round trip.

http://eliteraretrader.co.uk/?route...,77,79,55,36,13,26,29,83&name=Clipper Route 1

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

That's a shame you are flying the Clipper in SOLO Kirk. I haven't been interdicted once in Open, was flying my clipper without shields back on forth hauling 248T of Cargo for quite a while. Let me know if you want to hook up for some rare good trips, the ship is now converted to haul 140T of rare cargo, making roughly the same amount of cash as a full freighter config, but more space to add shields and other modules. My Clipper is basically kitted out to be a hunter, but still hauls enough to bring in a few million on a round trip.

http://eliteraretrader.co.uk/?route...,77,79,55,36,13,26,29,83&name=Clipper Route 1

Well - I fly mostly in solo because I don't want to waste anyone's time. Considering I only have D3 shields and no armaments, my only option would be to run and if the Clipper is good at anything, it's running away.

If I'm in open play and I know that I'll run in case of an interdiction, knowing that I'll be able to run from anything, then what's the point? I save the potential interdictors time to interdict me and I save me the time I'd waste running away. Common courtesy, really - we both win.

Considering "stating ones intentions can't hurt" as suggested earlier in the thread: it can. Granted that I'm a complete failure at flying spaceships, but if I'm in open in an anarchy system and I see coms popping up asking me if I'd be okay with pvp, I'll try to kill the guy because he just effectively implied he considers me a moron.

Thanks for the offer with the trade run - at work atm, but I'll get back to you once I'm home and have upgraded the Clipper decently enough to not be a liability (tbh I hate the ship - great cockpit in the rift, but turret placement is god-awful. Looking to get out of it and into a python ASAP).

 

[{SAS}Stalker]

I was hoping for a bit more 'random dangerous' encounters in Anarchy space, it seems all the cmdr's I meet are just traders going about their business.

This is simply not possible, everyone knows all traders only play solo or are in a PVE group. I have no idea what you saw but it cant have been traders :S

 

[Morbad]

I could easily upgrade the Engines on my clipper so nobody can run

Faster ships will always be able to run from a Clipper. It's fast for it's size, but it's not going to catch a well equipped Cobra or Viper.

I'm wondering where are the cmdr's looking for combat? Should I join a group?

They are all over, but most people won't be confident in their ability to take on a Cilpper, even if they would otherwise be eager for a fight, and will run.

Stations with rares are densely populated, and often feature plenty of hostile CMDRs. Lave in particular is crawling with people during prime time. I saw an Anaconda with a sizable bounty in the area last night.

Conflict Zones are a potential option, but few people bring larger ships here, and few CMDRs in smaller ships will want to try to grind through a Clipper's hull.

This is simply not possible, everyone knows all traders only play solo or are in a PVE group. I have no idea what you saw but it cant have been traders :S

I trade in Open, and I've seen plenty a brave CMDR rocking sheildless type-6s in Open.