I remember that in one of your earlier version you had a talking companion. Is there any way I can download ONLY that? I really enjoyed it!
[RELEASE] Slopey's BPC Market Tool! - New version!
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Hey Slopey, I just wanted to say thanks for adding in the Auto-Update Frequency option. 
It doesn't seem to be working though. It always defaults back to 5 minutes.
Actually wait, the change does kick in if I disable auto-updating first, then reenable after changing the time. However the option itself still defaults back to 5 minutes whenever I bring up the Options screen.
It doesn't seem to be working though. It always defaults back to 5 minutes.
Actually wait, the change does kick in if I disable auto-updating first, then reenable after changing the time. However the option itself still defaults back to 5 minutes whenever I bring up the Options screen.
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Volungu - Jemison Refinery
Drugs, Metals and Minerals.
If I find more, I'll ping ya.
Love ya Slopey!
Must of been my bad, redid and fine now thx.
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Slopey
Volunteer Moderator
It's integral to the BPC I'm afraid, but just run the BPC disable auto-updates, clear the database from Options, and it'll just sit there and do nothing
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Hey Slopey, I just wanted to say thanks for adding in the Auto-Update Frequency option.
It doesn't seem to be working though. It always defaults back to 5 minutes.
Actually wait, the change does kick in if I disable auto-updating first, then reenable after changing the time. However the option itself still defaults back to 5 minutes whenever I bring up the Options screen.
Hmmm, the new duration will only kick in after the next update, but after that it should be saved. I'll check it. It should default back to whatever you set it to when you open the options screen, but let me check.
Slopey
Volunteer Moderator
I'll take a look at that one, I have another ticket to look at the list as it's missing the interim timezones also.
Hi Slopey, i am having problems with setting my local time zone. i go to options and change it to GMT time 00:00:00 from Jordan standard time and nothing happens it sets to Morocco standard time which i dont see as a problem but my local time does not change my pc clock is set to UTC time, so no issues there. if i go to system tab the date and time are correct but if i look in the BPC tab the mins are off.
Window 7 64 bit
ken
Window 7 64 bit
ken
It's just me or there is no DB in this new version? I see only 2 system and nothing more!! O_O
dr monkhouse - I have 2560 known systems in mine at moment after update
Hey Slopey,
So after a knowledge of your app ever since it's inception, I decided to give it a go last night, and I must say I am very impressed. Contrary to what many people think, it has improved the game for me - in fact I suspect I would be putting ED down in a few weeks if it wasn't for it. Myself and a group of IT buddies have had aspirations for making something similar but I doubt it will ever get time to be made, so I thought I'd feed back some ideas you might consider for the future of BPC? Apologies if these are repeats already in the previous 117 pages - I'm not going to scour them
Rep
Data quality/consistency is obviously a problem. I spent a good hour last night travelling to somewhere where I believed Slaves would be a good sell, onto to discover that someone had mis-entered the data as Slaves instead of Imperial Slaves. This was quite frustrating, given the risk involved, but mistakes happen. Have you considered adding a user account layer over this? Not for charging, nothing like that, but put in a user model to which submissions are attributed and then put in a reputation system. Nothing draconian like banning people - no need to ban IPs for bad contributions - just let the ecosystem manage itself. As people fly around and find errors, they mark the submission as wrong, with no concept of who submitted it. But the reputation of the contributor can be downgraded, and reported results weighted based on their reputation - to the point where maybe a negative reputation results in their submissions being blocked. There's no active need for anyone to positive (or negative) rep anyone - the system could do it automatically based on contributions.
Interestingly, you could make the user rep aspect visible as a sort of side-game - allow users the choice of whether their name appears visible or not - then the greatest contributors can vie for the top spot. It would sort of make a little sub-game, but it would *incentivise*, which is a great way to nurture collaborative play (if only Frontier could adopt the same ethos).
Private Groups
Further layered onto the user model I could see a great way of using your tool for private groups, but this might be a scary data model and I guess it might impact query times considerably. Give user contributions the notion of whether they are shared globally (everyone on t'interweb), private group (a named group of t'interweb players) or locally (for those who want to use it solely for themselves on their PC only). I'm not suggesting a massively complex role-based security model here, just maybe support for a group of players (up to some arbitrary limit, say 8 players) to share their information within their group but not with all and sundry. It also assumes you do not push all data to the local clients and then query locally, but filter at the server end before pushing down to clients.
Favourites
Seems like a bookmark facility to add source/destination/commodity routes into a favourite list would be nice. The player could re-load this at any time, it would re-query the validity of the pricing and he could make a quick choice about whether to re-visit it or not. Could you trend the total profit over time maybe, so he can see where it's going?
Permanent side-tab
I find myself wanting a "Quick View" of the current system I'm in, permanently on the side of the GUI, maybe a sub-portion (adjustable and/or hideable, naturally, for those who don't want it). A bit like the system tab, it would monitor the system you're in, update automatically, but give you the key facts of the system. The station(s) within it, and maybe what the top 5 sellers and top 5 buyers are for each. Maybe you don't envisage the tool going to these lengths, which is fine, I just find myself thinking on a long trade run - as I pass through systems - oo I wonder if there's anything good to pick up here while I'm passing?
Multiple source systems by range
Another one - this strikes me as obvious so I'm guessing someone has asked for this before, maybe it's not something you want to offer, but - what about a tick box to allow you to search a collection of "from" systems? Thinking about the actual player process for a minute, I might be in a system having just completed a run, and I'm thinking "Right, what can I take from here elsewhere to make a few quid?". But in reality, of course, I'd be quite happy to do 1 or 2 short jumps to neighbouring systems if there's a better deal I can pick up there. So how about when you select a "from" system, you can tick a box (or a combo field/slider/etc) to make the app search ALSO systems within, say, 20LY of your present location? Obviously in the interest of query time you want to constrain this, so maybe 20LY maximum, but then your search would include results for nearby neighbouring systems?
Anyway, great little tool, keep up the good work... I'm going to use it for a bit, see how I get on with it and how practical it is over time, and then will definitely consider a donation if it enhances my gameplay experience as much as I think it will.
Oh - and I don't know your app architecture, of course, so happy to be told this is all pie-in-the-sky !
So after a knowledge of your app ever since it's inception, I decided to give it a go last night, and I must say I am very impressed. Contrary to what many people think, it has improved the game for me - in fact I suspect I would be putting ED down in a few weeks if it wasn't for it. Myself and a group of IT buddies have had aspirations for making something similar but I doubt it will ever get time to be made, so I thought I'd feed back some ideas you might consider for the future of BPC? Apologies if these are repeats already in the previous 117 pages - I'm not going to scour them
Rep
Data quality/consistency is obviously a problem. I spent a good hour last night travelling to somewhere where I believed Slaves would be a good sell, onto to discover that someone had mis-entered the data as Slaves instead of Imperial Slaves. This was quite frustrating, given the risk involved, but mistakes happen. Have you considered adding a user account layer over this? Not for charging, nothing like that, but put in a user model to which submissions are attributed and then put in a reputation system. Nothing draconian like banning people - no need to ban IPs for bad contributions - just let the ecosystem manage itself. As people fly around and find errors, they mark the submission as wrong, with no concept of who submitted it. But the reputation of the contributor can be downgraded, and reported results weighted based on their reputation - to the point where maybe a negative reputation results in their submissions being blocked. There's no active need for anyone to positive (or negative) rep anyone - the system could do it automatically based on contributions.
Interestingly, you could make the user rep aspect visible as a sort of side-game - allow users the choice of whether their name appears visible or not - then the greatest contributors can vie for the top spot. It would sort of make a little sub-game, but it would *incentivise*, which is a great way to nurture collaborative play (if only Frontier could adopt the same ethos).
Private Groups
Further layered onto the user model I could see a great way of using your tool for private groups, but this might be a scary data model and I guess it might impact query times considerably. Give user contributions the notion of whether they are shared globally (everyone on t'interweb), private group (a named group of t'interweb players) or locally (for those who want to use it solely for themselves on their PC only). I'm not suggesting a massively complex role-based security model here, just maybe support for a group of players (up to some arbitrary limit, say 8 players) to share their information within their group but not with all and sundry. It also assumes you do not push all data to the local clients and then query locally, but filter at the server end before pushing down to clients.
Favourites
Seems like a bookmark facility to add source/destination/commodity routes into a favourite list would be nice. The player could re-load this at any time, it would re-query the validity of the pricing and he could make a quick choice about whether to re-visit it or not. Could you trend the total profit over time maybe, so he can see where it's going?
Permanent side-tab
I find myself wanting a "Quick View" of the current system I'm in, permanently on the side of the GUI, maybe a sub-portion (adjustable and/or hideable, naturally, for those who don't want it). A bit like the system tab, it would monitor the system you're in, update automatically, but give you the key facts of the system. The station(s) within it, and maybe what the top 5 sellers and top 5 buyers are for each. Maybe you don't envisage the tool going to these lengths, which is fine, I just find myself thinking on a long trade run - as I pass through systems - oo I wonder if there's anything good to pick up here while I'm passing?
Multiple source systems by range
Another one - this strikes me as obvious so I'm guessing someone has asked for this before, maybe it's not something you want to offer, but - what about a tick box to allow you to search a collection of "from" systems? Thinking about the actual player process for a minute, I might be in a system having just completed a run, and I'm thinking "Right, what can I take from here elsewhere to make a few quid?". But in reality, of course, I'd be quite happy to do 1 or 2 short jumps to neighbouring systems if there's a better deal I can pick up there. So how about when you select a "from" system, you can tick a box (or a combo field/slider/etc) to make the app search ALSO systems within, say, 20LY of your present location? Obviously in the interest of query time you want to constrain this, so maybe 20LY maximum, but then your search would include results for nearby neighbouring systems?
Anyway, great little tool, keep up the good work... I'm going to use it for a bit, see how I get on with it and how practical it is over time, and then will definitely consider a donation if it enhances my gameplay experience as much as I think it will.
Oh - and I don't know your app architecture, of course, so happy to be told this is all pie-in-the-sky
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When will the round trip feature come back to this awesome tool?
Having the same problem
secondedHmmm,
V4.2.0.3 refused to update, had to do a complete download and re-install, now only have 13 sysytems available, however will be able start to repopulate that this afternoon, seems very quick so far.
Great work matey!
Bigtaff
What he said ^
I just started up the BPC, and it reports "Table locked in Database" during the initial parse (not touching anything)
Then, I notice it's still at version 4.2.0.3 (as shown in the tiitle bar) where I expected it to update to 4.2.1.0. I got auto-update enabled, and it does not prompt to restart for the next version. Manually stopping and starting the program does not help either.
Thx,
Paul
Then, I notice it's still at version 4.2.0.3 (as shown in the tiitle bar) where I expected it to update to 4.2.1.0. I got auto-update enabled, and it does not prompt to restart for the next version. Manually stopping and starting the program does not help either.
Thx,
Paul