When I buy a game, I research the gameplay by looking at reviews and impressions from other players. I'll also look up some videos that show case game mechanics. Relying on marketing to make a purchase is a gamble.
Elite Dangerous no longer an MMO?
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This pretty much sums it up
The 'sense' was what I read before purchase, and that does indeed matter to me. Maybe not to you, but to me. Respect.
Already shifting the goalposts I see
Elite advertised itself as an MMO. By nature that would make it an MMOFPS. Other MMOFPS games include Planetside 2 and WW2OL. They feature fights including hundreds of players at the same time in a seamless world (well, WW2OL's playerbase is probably now too small for that, PS2 is still doing well though).
Unfortunately, Elite is currently as much an MMO as Battlefield is.
You are projecting your wants onto this. MMO is just that, no First Person Shooter / Role Playing Game / Real Time Strategy acronym added. Elite has never been about those things and I would be surprised to think that anyine would think it was now.
Are you complaining that there aren't 50 player raids in place, or you can't buy / build a station for your guild?
But advertising does have to be true to a degree.
Carlsberg cannot say that Carlsberg is the best larger in the world, they have to say it's probably the best larger in the world. There is a difference in the wording on purpose.
You cannot advertise that your product is one thing when it is not. Trading standards will be all over you.
ED is an MMO though so that's fine.
You are wrong. It was right on their main web site. If you search through similar threads someone posted a screen capture. Their new updated site no longer says it.
when mentioning mmo, the mmo is traditionally refering to the number of players that can be online in the same place, not on the size of the playing world.
is the world masive ? yes
is the number of players online in the same place masive ? no
it's a gigantic instanced world with few people in the same instance.
is the world masive ? yes
is the number of players online in the same place masive ? no
it's a gigantic instanced world with few people in the same instance.
Is World of Tanks an MMO?
The answer is yes, and you will never see more than 30 players ( 15 v 15 ) in the same instance, yet apparently ED is not an MMO because it has no more than 32 players in the same instance.
Seriously?
Again, just having a lot of people online doesn't make it an MMO. AoE is not an MMO, CoD is not an MMO yet both can have massive amounts of players online at any one time. Doesn't make it an MMO. Massive Multiplayers Online refers to a single server or instance, not just # of folks online in solo. You have to put the words together to create the phrase, just like the players, see? Its got little to do with conformity, ie. crafting or skill trees, either.
Why does this matter? For you it may not, so I AM HAPPY FOR YOU, for me it means gimped multiplayer and I spent my money on false advertisement, plain and simple. You don't have to like it, I don't.
Why does this matter? For you it may not, so I AM HAPPY FOR YOU, for me it means gimped multiplayer and I spent my money on false advertisement, plain and simple. You don't have to like it, I don't.
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How can it be Massivly Multiplayer if its instanced? Riddle me this
Of course there needs to be truth in advertising, but relying on that advertising to make purchasing decisions is still foolish.
Personally I couldn't care less about people's odd semantic views on what 'MMO' really means, or the to and fro jibes about people wanting 'WoW in space'. What this actually makes me wonder is whether it signals some change in FD's intended development path away from providing multiplayer features and content. Really hope not since that would be a great shame and a waste of a platform with truly great potential. Not much to do though except wait and see what they decide to tell us in a few weeks time.
Based on this you can win in court, in EU for sure, you can even start the group trial.
Wicz - get real.
I've no idea about WoT, never played it. But by your logic Tribes (1998) would also be an MMO (16v16). Clue: it wasn't.
I've no idea about WoT, never played it. But by your logic Tribes (1998) would also be an MMO (16v16). Clue: it wasn't.
It is, that still has nothing to do with MMO status.
Good to know your hotline to the devs is active and well
If you think this will make the slightest bit of difference as far as people asking for multiplayer content and mechanics you are bonkers. All it means is a few sad old cases on these forums will be able to croak on about how Elite 'isn't really a multiplayer game' with a little more misguided conviction.
I didn't say it would stop people requesting changes to the multiplayer system. I said that people won't be here claiming false advertising because for some reason it seems everyone wants to feel legally violated by trailers and game descriptions these days.
As for my hotline to the devs, the DDA defines what is planned and any changes to it or deviation made have always been announced and explained.
No no. It's a massive game, sure. But it is not Massively Multiplayer. You can see a maximum of 31 other players at a time. That is about the limit you find in games such as Call of Duty on any given console. No one believes those to be MMOs, at least no one I've ever seen/heard/read. There are some similarities here: CoD has Leaderboards, Elite has Elite Ranks. Still not Massively Multiplayer. And there is nothing wrong with that! In fact, I would have been put off of Elite if I expected it to be an MMO. Calling it an MMO was a mistake on David Braben's part (yes, he referred to it as an 'MMO' in an interview he gave) but that slip-up doesn't change how this game works vs how an 'MMO' works, and so the correct response to threads like this, and these questions in General is:
You are right. It is not an MMO. It is multiplayer, and it is Massively FUN though.
Edit to say I thought I'd read this OP previously but just read it again, and I don't think FD has changed any text on the website, and anyone with a semi-informed opinion would know what to expect. It is foolishness to at this point say you want a refund because it isn't an MMO.
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The game falls short on the 'massively' part, as you will never interact with more than 32 players at a time.
The game falls short on the 'multiplayer' part, as there are pretty much no mechanics in place to make the multiplayer experience thrilling.
As for the online part, I'll agree that it fulfils its promise. Well, that is on the condition that you have access to your router's settings and are willing to enable UPNP. Which is stated nowhere on the store page btw.
I'm enjoying the game for what it is atm, namely Frontier, IMO a more interesting game than the orginal elite, with better graphics. But don't tell me to stay silent when some shills try to claim that the game is an MMO. It's not. You'd see me just as vocal if you tried to defend Wargaming when they advertise their games as MMOs. And even then World of tanks provides a more interesting and more massive multiplayer experience than Elite currently does.
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It always disturb me to see threads moaning about Elite not being MMO beside other threads moaning about griefing.
MOUAHAHAHAH - people are just mad - it is my conclusion. And the more I'm on this forum the more I become so myself!!!
MOUAHAHAHAH - people are just mad - it is my conclusion. And the more I'm on this forum the more I become so myself!!!
I knew new someone had captured it. Nice job Viajero.
I would think the " free-for-all group battles and TEAM RAIDS" should pretty much some it up....lol
That is offline you talk about. OP talked about ED being an MMO. Wings is coming where we can coop more and do missions together with shared rewards etc. Maybe thats why they mentioned MMO and the fact you are in MP. But that isnt enough to call it MMO so it was removed thanks to that.