Vulture NEEDS pre nerfed
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Did I hear that right? They're smurfing all the ships??
I really don't understand all this insistent harping about "nerf" this "balance" that - never even understood these terms until recently. Are people on this forum hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy when they continually announce that "WHEN" the statics or abilities of a certain item or ship are going to be changed? It's almost as if they think they are developers or programmers themselves. Becoming tiresome now
One ship needs to be able to kill others. If they are all the same, there's no point in having them.
OMG WOULD you guys just stop with the nerfing crap. There should be more powerful ships in the game. You just have to learn to fly and defend against them. There is always a countermeasure for something. But key here is "LEARN" to actually fly your ship and not complain about being killed by a much bigger more powerful MUCH more expensive ship flown by a much more experienced pilot. You can t just jump into a asp and expect it to kill everything out there without "LEARNING" and "PRACTICING" with it. For god sakes stop being so damn lazy and actually Play. Crap isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. (((unless FD keeps listening to all these quacks))). And the viper is not all powerful.
Of course, the only problem with spending so much time "LEARNING" and "PRACTICING" is it leaves so little time for reading threads properly...
I hate the way "balance" apparently means that any ship should have a decent chance to beat any other ship. Why should a ~7m CR viper stand any chance of ever beating a 200m CR Python? It shouldn't.
Python needs no nerf. It wipes the floor with the viper and the cobra, as well it should.
5 Vipers, being less than 25% of the cost of the Python, and very few Python players would come out victorious (or if they did, would have higher repair cost than the combined rebuys of the vipers that hadn't managed to run away.)
I don't agree the Python needs any form of nerf, ESPECIALLY nerfing it's shields by 33%. Thing is, a viper can take some hull damage. A Python that drops it's shields is utterly beaten, because of insane repair costs and it taking SO VERY LONG for the shields to come back online in it.
EVE was a much better game back before they nerfed everything to make it unpossible for large turrets to hit small ships (I played from beta) and now we have EVE players coming here demanding vipers be turned into invulnerable super ships on EVE logic of small must > large.
The US Navy does not deploy a load of small PT boats. They deploy Destroyers and Carriers.
If we are going to nerf the Python to uselessness, then we should also upgrade point defence so that any vipers coming near a python just get obliterated by PD fire.
It makes me want a single player game so I can play without the stupid balance patches. We're going to end up with another boring soulless game with "progression" replaced with "diversity" and "specialisation" because one ship cannot be "better" than another, only "more specialised".
Meanwhile the PvP crowd can rock around in their cheap disposable ships for near zero all risk, while being able to compete with anything in the field.
You only have to look at how pointless the 'Conda is in PvP (too slow to turn, turrets are useless, completely vulnerable to everything, massive risk no reward) to realise what's going to happen - everyone will just be in Vipers, because even if the Python is situationally better, the increase in rebuy cost means it's not worth flying, ever.
Python needs no nerf. It wipes the floor with the viper and the cobra, as well it should.
5 Vipers, being less than 25% of the cost of the Python, and very few Python players would come out victorious (or if they did, would have higher repair cost than the combined rebuys of the vipers that hadn't managed to run away.)
I don't agree the Python needs any form of nerf, ESPECIALLY nerfing it's shields by 33%. Thing is, a viper can take some hull damage. A Python that drops it's shields is utterly beaten, because of insane repair costs and it taking SO VERY LONG for the shields to come back online in it.
EVE was a much better game back before they nerfed everything to make it unpossible for large turrets to hit small ships (I played from beta) and now we have EVE players coming here demanding vipers be turned into invulnerable super ships on EVE logic of small must > large.
The US Navy does not deploy a load of small PT boats. They deploy Destroyers and Carriers.
If we are going to nerf the Python to uselessness, then we should also upgrade point defence so that any vipers coming near a python just get obliterated by PD fire.
It makes me want a single player game so I can play without the stupid balance patches. We're going to end up with another boring soulless game with "progression" replaced with "diversity" and "specialisation" because one ship cannot be "better" than another, only "more specialised".
Meanwhile the PvP crowd can rock around in their cheap disposable ships for near zero all risk, while being able to compete with anything in the field.
You only have to look at how pointless the 'Conda is in PvP (too slow to turn, turrets are useless, completely vulnerable to everything, massive risk no reward) to realise what's going to happen - everyone will just be in Vipers, because even if the Python is situationally better, the increase in rebuy cost means it's not worth flying, ever.
OMG.!! They even woof'ed the Enterprise. ....
lets face it - some people want to work to get a better ship - those that don't nurf gun it...
traders would like to see the interdiction nurfed ...
pirates want a clean kill list while videoing their exploits live... and to not be killed for it (what pirate videos all his kills live and is not painting >>here i am *eye balls of fire* << upon themselves haha
fighters and bounty hunters want equal pay to traders who put millions in cargo on every hand**
experienced players want better NPC ...
experienced smugglers want 0% cops
experienced cops want bigger budgets ...
experienced NPC Scoundrels want Anaconda's on every fight and get them
interdiction by 15 system authorities per 5 minutes @ just traveling...
some star bases authority dropships litraly sit outside the docking port facing it...
what do we want ? a good game
when do we want it now - not every one will get every good thing fed to them though a straw - the good players need challenges not impatient whining about how hard you have to work to get on top.
I have played so a few games where - every thing is explained through play through video's from better guilds...
still can't make it ? blame the equipment - blame your team speak - blame the money spenders - blame the full account holders - blame the devs for prefering another guild - blame it on the train some wanabee guild pulled to your raid.
what can you do in a world where every one is not equal - who would make such a world and live on it ? us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6OxjaJ707M not all fights end up in a win thankfully
and some times we win > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4_7tjdb8Fo
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Whatever...
vonvonbraun
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