Here is a Python beating 3 of us

[IceyJones]

a python with gimbals wouldnot have a chance against your 3 with chaff and cells.....it would have been scared away......

this vid is only showing 3 clueless viper and cobra pilots.

and if it would have been a good python player with fixed guns that do more damage, you would have been obliterated even without the use of a shield cell.

and thats how it should be! only 3 task-fitted vipers with the knowledge of teamplay should be able to take a pytho with combat setup! but we will see after the nerf of 30% of the python shield much more of these vids showing laughing noobs, taking out pythons for fun......

 

[fergal]

1v1 with Python is a different story. There were 3 of you, but like I said most of the time it was 1v1 for him.

I meant you in a python me in my viper.
I can't afford a python

 

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[Jup]

Now i am not really an pro in combat either, heck not even close.

But you are really "not so good" in combat. Practice a bit more.

The worst thing you can do during such an fight is flying in a straigt line like u did (for a very very long time).
You turned yourself into an easy target right there.

 

[heartorhead]

I meant you in a python me in my viper.
I can't afford a python

Neither I.

 

[fergal]

Yeah, targets like the Python need Weapons that pack a continuous punch.

The Cannon setup was actually not bad, should have tried 4x Cannons. They're like 100x tiny dumbfire missiles each and they do fire 6x before reloading...

Still, nice to see how it worked out. I'd bet he used 3x Class3 Gimbal Burst Lasers... These beasts deal a ton of damage in no time. Need lots of Chaff during any attack run, otherwise even A Grade Cobra or Viper Shields melt like ice in the snow.

I think he was using a mixture of fixed and gimballed beams. I'm still not sold on cannons being better than multicannons. I've been trying them out on cargo hatches but the results vary.

 

[Cortana]

Next time use higher class shield cells. And manage your power distribution! While he is shooting at you, 4 pipes to SYS and 2 pipes to WEP if you are shooting back or 2 pipes to ENG if you are trying to escape. And while he is not shooting at you, 4 pipes to WEP and 2 pipes to ENG.

1 Cobra should have used 4 Beam Lasers to bring down his shields. And the other 2 guys gimballed Multicannons only targeting his FSD.

Anyway, nice fight

 

[SuBSynk]

Yeah, targets like the Python need Weapons that pack a continuous punch.

The Cannon setup was actually not bad, should have tried 4x Cannons. They're like 100x tiny dumbfire missiles each and they do fire 6x before reloading...

Still, nice to see how it worked out. I'd bet he used 3x Class3 Gimbal Burst Lasers... These beasts deal a ton of damage in no time. Need lots of Chaff during any attack run, otherwise even A Grade Cobra or Viper Shields melt like ice in the snow.

Looked like 3x pulse to me, 3x burst overheat way too fast even for a class A distributor and give remarkably similar results.

 

[Jex =TE=]

1v1 with Python is a different story. There were 3 of you, but like I said most of the time it was 1v1 for him.

Yeah but even then, it should be harder imo. However, countering the powerful weapons and large armour values and hull the python has, it shouldn't turn as good as the other craft. I feel that the larger ships should require a lot more smaller ships to take it out and if they were more coordinated, I think the story would have been different and over pretty quickly? Once it's shields are down, how quickly does the hull follow?

 

[Ozrix]

My hands were sweating watching this, I reckon everyone involved in the fight was nervous too

 

[Shads]

a python with gimbals wouldnot have a chance against your 3 with chaff and cells.....it would have been scared away......

this vid is only showing 3 clueless viper and cobra pilots.

and if it would have been a good python player with fixed guns that do more damage, you would have been obliterated even without the use of a shield cell.

and thats how it should be! only 3 task-fitted vipers with the knowledge of teamplay should be able to take a pytho with combat setup! but we will see after the nerf of 30% of the python shield much more of these vids showing laughing noobs, taking out pythons for fun......

There's always one....

 

[schuesseled]

dumbfires would have smoked him.

 

[rtho782]

That's me in the Python!!!

Was the best fight I've ever had, I actually thought I was screwed when you all jumped in!!

Python is Class A almost everything, I think I had gimballed pulse on at the time, I was expecting you to use more Chaff than you did, and with 4 pips to engine, you could have outrun me. I mostly kept power to engines to try to keep up, with whatever I could spare to shields.

Here's my rebuy:

http://i.imgur.com/96H39y2.jpg

You guys were awesome, if you want to go again I'll cover any losses you incur

 

[Shads]

That's me in the Python!!!

Was the best fight I've ever had, I actually thought I was screwed when you all jumped in!!

Python is Class A almost everything, I think I had gimballed pulse on at the time, I was expecting you to use more Chaff than you did, and with 4 pips to engine, you could have outrun me. I mostly kept power to engines to try to keep up, with whatever I could spare to shields.

Here's my rebuy:

http://i.imgur.com/96H39y2.jpg

You guys were awesome, if you want to go again I'll cover any losses you incur

The vid was good. This post is better. Respect!

 

[rtho782]

dumbfires would have smoked him.

Been attacked by a cobra with dumbfires before, between PD, 4 pips to shields, and SCBs, I didn't lose

 

[soma]

Nice fight, interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing

(Disclaimer: I just bougth an asp and am FAR away from being able to afford a Python. With the limited amount of time I can put into gaming, I probably never will be able to.)

However I think this is pretty much how such a fight should play out. The shield generator on the Python was probably more expensive than your 3 ships taken together. So, nice effort (and very entertaining to watch), but seriously: IF 3 uncoordinated pilots in low class ships could manage to take out a semi-competent pilot in a Python, then something would be very wrong with the game balance..

 

[Hooplah]

I'm seeing some combat issues here. First the slow rate of charge on your shields. Not a lot of pips on SYS. Looks like you had ample power as you were using boost constantly. Next pips did not change much per attack and defense. Also not seeing much on thruster/pitch maneuvers to get inside the turning ring for longer on target firing...or evasive maneuvers when boosting away.

Just observations in the video suggesting a more positive outcome with improvements. And yes, the Python obviously had a shield cell bank or a really great recharge rate. The question is where was yours! You get them cheaper. Regards

 

[Cortana]

That's me in the Python!!!

Was the best fight I've ever had, I actually thought I was screwed when you all jumped in!!

Python is Class A almost everything, I think I had gimballed pulse on at the time, I was expecting you to use more Chaff than you did, and with 4 pips to engine, you could have outrun me. I mostly kept power to engines to try to keep up, with whatever I could spare to shields.

Here's my rebuy:

http://i.imgur.com/96H39y2.jpg

You guys were awesome, if you want to go again I'll cover any losses you incur

Hey

Could you post your ship loudout?

 

[heartorhead]

My take on 'small ships vs big ship' is that Pythons/Anacondas/Whateverbig should have exclusive option to mount turret weapons which should do more damage than now and cover almost 360 area. There would be almost no need to balance big ships in terms of agility vs small ships as you won't have to 'face' the enemy to destroy him.

 

[Derath]

We had 0 co-ordination, I think it was rare for two of use to be attacking at once, so I wouldn't say this would be a "typical" result if 3 players in small ships tried to attack a python.

I didn't really have my ship set up for the fight (I know a poor carpenter blames his tools) but having at least a chaff launcher would have helped a little. The other two guys had one I think and they were able to withstand him shooting at them for much longer than I could.

Naw man trust me its not a case of the poor carpenter blaming his tools if you weren't equipped for pvp vs shield cells you were never going to get through, still a valiant attempt +rep!