Indeed. I am sure this will all soon be settled amicably, with opinions appropriately modified and minds opened. It is the Internet, after all. Tim Berners-Lee, the grandmother of the selfie, would be spinning in her grave (were she dead) to think that universal understanding and harmony was not the natural end-state of internet forum posts. As would Freeman Dyson, the inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner.
Thanks for all the fish
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Indeed. I am sure this will all soon be settled amicably, with opinions appropriately modified and minds opened. It is the Internet, after all. Tim Berners-Lee, the grandmother of the selfie, would be spinning in her grave (were she dead) to think that universal understanding and harmony was not the natural end-state of internet forum posts. As would Freeman Dyson, the inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner.
Nah, all it took was my ship getting nuked a few minutes ago.
Sorry My Bad.
Normally I'm sympathetic but your forum rank indicates that you must have seen hundreds of these posts, then you make one. - Lesson learned? - Sleep on it and you will come back wiser and maybe not take a gamble again?
He just thought that re-buy money was more of a suggestion than an actual rule. you know, like price tags on items at the store. you don't HAVE to pay that amount, you could just steal it for free. right? right?
So you've been over a month in the game, and in that time must've had 3/4/5 ships so far? You figured out trading, combat & 67 forum posts suggest you've been active in the community too. Yet you didn't press 4 in all that time and see the rebuy cost? It's right below your credit total which you must've been aware of or you wouldn't have known how close to buying that clipper you were?I agree nav beacons shouldn't be so tough but seriously, you're blaming the game for your loss? Suck it up and get back on the horse, the galaxy needs hardened, ruthless space cowboys, and after this episode I believe you will be all three. Or you can quit like a little girl, the choice is yours but if you do choose the latter I wouldn't do it on the forums as sympathy isn't its strongest attribute.
It seems your comment about sympathy is rather true
You have a point, although you can't guarantee a player won't just stay where it's supposed to be safe. You shouldn't be losing your ship countless times if you never leave the shallows, and there shouldn't be anything forcing you to leave the shallows.
Feels like I'm seeing far too many of this sort of tale of woe though. The poor schlubb who's just lost everything has to take some of the blame, but the insurance system is also clearly inadequate.
First of all to the OP I feel with you, done same thing in smaller ship, that said, I don't fly uninsured its too risky in high end ship. ^^ always have cash enough in your wallet to rebuy your ship.
secondly you most likely hit asteriods as they are about the same distance from the sun as the nav point and would cause your demise.
Hope you be back after a short break, it is a bit frustrating to loose stuff, but in the end without any risk of loosing things any games become really boring fast.
secondly you most likely hit asteriods as they are about the same distance from the sun as the nav point and would cause your demise.
Hope you be back after a short break, it is a bit frustrating to loose stuff, but in the end without any risk of loosing things any games become really boring fast.
The only thins that needs to be made public is the loan. Everything else is already shown to you. Granted they could add a tutorial explaining if a ship is blown up and you can't pay for the re-buy cost you start at square one.
Nav beacons & asteroids must be made of Indestructium, although they are both susceptible to weapon's fire, it's weird.
Most players seem to learn about insurance & buy back early on, even if it is the hard way, but an in-game mechanic might be helpful. Perhaps we should see the ship's computer display credit balance in RED when you get below your re-buy cost? I get a stupid voice alert when my cargo hold is full that I don't absolutely don't need either, but apparently it is a useful feature to some. Therefore why not something vaguely similar and equally unobtrusive that might be marginally more useful to some players.
Computers in the 33rd century seem to do far less than they do today (not to mention the dodgy interfaces that are worse than WIN91), it might not hurt the Elite galaxy to expand computer capabilities just a tiny bit if it makes the game more player-friendly.
Personally, I always remember to fly with insurance, but small enhancements are generally a good thing in any game, even if you don't rely on them. However, I'm sure I can already hear some players crying 'NO' to this idea....
Most players seem to learn about insurance & buy back early on, even if it is the hard way, but an in-game mechanic might be helpful. Perhaps we should see the ship's computer display credit balance in RED when you get below your re-buy cost? I get a stupid voice alert when my cargo hold is full that I don't absolutely don't need either, but apparently it is a useful feature to some. Therefore why not something vaguely similar and equally unobtrusive that might be marginally more useful to some players.
Computers in the 33rd century seem to do far less than they do today (not to mention the dodgy interfaces that are worse than WIN91), it might not hurt the Elite galaxy to expand computer capabilities just a tiny bit if it makes the game more player-friendly.
Personally, I always remember to fly with insurance, but small enhancements are generally a good thing in any game, even if you don't rely on them. However, I'm sure I can already hear some players crying 'NO' to this idea....
To be honest I think that what makes me feel the worst. I have seen many of the rage quite posts, but I didn't bother to read them. I didn't realize what had just happened to me is what happened to them.
That's a good idea. I know some game/physics APIs would have trouble with a small point suddenly landing in the middle of an object travelling at high speed, especially if it triggers elastic collision forces - it might 'flap' the simulation and enforce a disproportionate amount of damage.
1.Die in Elite.
2.Get angry !!
3.IDONTWANNAPLAYTHISANYMORE - rage quit !!!
4.wait 24h
5.Play more Elite.
My 5 steps of shame
This game made me furious so many times, yet i still return for more.
2.Get angry !!
3.IDONTWANNAPLAYTHISANYMORE - rage quit !!!
4.wait 24h
5.Play more Elite.
My 5 steps of shame
This game made me furious so many times, yet i still return for more.
I've also lost a few Asps to 'accidents' and i lost all my progress due to the 1/1/15 server hiccup (support DID offer me a reset but by the time they did, i had already almost got back to where i was before so i declined the roll-back)
I don't think it's helpful all the sarcastic comments and i doubt there's anyone here who hasn't risked at least one flight without adequate insurance (but they got away with it)
I don't think it's helpful all the sarcastic comments and i doubt there's anyone here who hasn't risked at least one flight without adequate insurance (but they got away with it)
I didn't think it was a suggestion. I had lost ships early on and a loan had taken care of it in at least one instance when I didn't have enough to cover it. I have lost a few ships but could always afford the rebuy, insuring that i could even. I made a number of stupid decisions, but thought that the loan would cover the difference if the worst happened, and i would pay it off over time as i had before. Cest la vie. I didn't post to argue. I was in shock. Now I'm not.
Happy hunting
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1.Die in Elite.
2.Get angry !!
3.IDONTWANNAPLAYTHISANYMORE - rage quit !!!
4.wait 24h
5.Play more Elite.
My 5 steps of shame
This game made me furious so many times, yet i still return for more.
Cheers bud. No rage. Just amazed at myself for playing this long, getting so far and being so confused about this bit.
Sorry for your loss. The feeling sucks, but hang on and keep going! I would also direct you to read the Elite Dangerous Manual.
For this, please refer to Elite Dangerous Manual, page 103 "Insurance Fees". ED is about responsibility and risk, not baby-sitting IMHO
I have died far more times to collisions with what I can only assume are kamikaze NPC ships than anything else. Elite anacondas are breakfast. But those mostly harmless Cobras that boost into you are ' lethal.
Crap AI, really.
Unlimited loans means that you would be able to crash ships as often as you please and rack up any debt without fear of ever being truly down. There has to be a limit.