Yep, it's an exploit. Look into joining a group in the Dangerous Groups section of the forums. There are a lot of great groups that welcome more players.
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Yep, it's an exploit. Look into joining a group in the Dangerous Groups section of the forums. There are a lot of great groups that welcome more players.
I think it's better for gameplay alone to take care of griefers.
Simply revoke docking and let the station handle them. They'll stop.
I think a quick remedy to this situation should be anu combat pilots who can fit a viper with 4 seeker missiles and take out these griefers using their own exploit.
Simply revoke docking and let the station handle them. They'll stop.
I think a quick remedy to this situation should be anu combat pilots who can fit a viper with 4 seeker missiles and take out these griefers using their own exploit.
if i resume, for you it's fun because is a video game. if gameplay not fixe that, soon in open, only griefer grief another griefer. well why not
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no, not *just* a handful of credits.... for many people it is many multiple hrs of game time progress completely lost, compared to yourself who loses just a handful of credits.
Your actions are no better than wiping out as many racers you can in a game of iracing.
giggles for you perhaps but game ruining for the rest.
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I can't believe this....
You have decided to randomly shoot at others Cmdrs who are docking/undocking because you wanted to unwind and take a break ?????
If shooting is really making you feel that better, why don't you go to a conflict zone and face other Cmdrs there ?
You could also hunt wanted npcs/Cmdrs.
I am not talking about Pirating since you assume lot of traders are logging off. I do not support "combat logging" but go figure why they have come to do that (if they are really doing that)...
Oh, and you can go and explore with any ship. You do not need to get an ASP to do that.
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But I'm not exploiting a thing. Using weapons in stations is explicitly allowed in the game. FDev made a conscious choice to allow it. There's literally no other reason to allow for players to deploy hardpoints within the confines of a station.
Dumbfires are OP, but they'll be nerfed. As for using a cheap ship to launch dumbfires? Well, flying cheap is hardly an exploit.
Also, when dumbfires are nerfed people will just use torpedos, Ramming with Type 7's and Type 9's (actually this already happens as per both these forums and reddit), railguns and plasma accelerator cannons. All of those tools will work exceedingly well in the confines of a station, and many of them have already been demonstrated.
As for "bullying": I can seperate an act of pixel violence against a tiny bit of pixel currency from cruelty in the real world. If someone is not able to make that distinction, perhaps I am not the one with the problem...
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There is one set of rules and they're dictated by Frontier. You can try inflicting your game play values upon other people but it is pointless.
The game allows what it allows, if you can do it then it is ok to do it.
If it was unintended Frontier will declare it an exploit with an attached punishment and/or they will fix it.
There are no morals involved this is a game.
The game allows what it allows, if you can do it then it is ok to do it.
If it was unintended Frontier will declare it an exploit with an attached punishment and/or they will fix it.
There are no morals involved this is a game.
I think lonewarrior got it right: he hasn't the advantage of suprise anymore, so ram him on sight before he has a chance to fire.
behing avatar and pixel they are real persons. but i prefer play in solo with pixels because i not risk to meet avatar thinks fun is to shoot another without ask if for him, killed in station is fun.
But I want to explore in an ASP, prettier screenshots.
As to the rest, well it's the same reason millions of people play Grand Theft Auto - it's a detailed sandbox world where the normal rules and consequences don't apply. You can have fun with it! You don't inflict real suffering when you kill someone in GTA V, or WoW, or Elite. If someone does feel real suffering when their player character dies, they need to consult a psychiatrist - that kind of reaction, and the inability to differentiate between reality and fiction simply isn't healthy.
People can do whatever they want, as in Potato Overdose's (great name btw) case. However, this may very well bite him in the backside over the long haul. You do it to enough people and eventually they will come looking for you, possibly several of them. Don't get angry people, get even.
Their are real persons behind the avatars of players in GTA V and WoW. When a shaman kills a paladin, is it cruelty?
Thanks. And I hope they do. My actions should have consequences, ideally meted out by some vengeful player or other. That's the nice thing about sandboxes.
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Just wondered if your point defence was disabled and you knew who the idiot cmdr was who was sitting over his landing pad if one was quick enough would it be possible to ram into him and knock him into the side of the station would his timer run out and the station attack him? I guess he could just log out - still it would be fun anyways I could imagine
The station does attempt to kill the aggressor. It's possible to tank the internal station guns for a while with two shield cells though - more a testament about shield cells being OP than anything else really. But death is largely irrelevant, the aggressor is using a 5000 credit re-buy eagle or a 10000 credit re-buy viper. The agressor can die, and it costs him almost nothing to come back courtesy of the re-buy system.
Firing in a Station:
Premenant revocation of docking rights. (IE, never allowed to dock at the station again.)
Immediate 25k bounty.
1 hit Ship destruction by the station.
SECOND OFFENCE:
This can be at ANY Other station in the same controlling faction.
Immediate triple of any existing bounty.
Banned from entering the vicinity of ANY station owned by the faction on pain of death.
Obviously banned from landing in ANY station controlled by that faction.
Actively hunted by local authorities upon entering system.
KOS rules applied to the commander, granting EVERYONE in the factions territory the right to claim the bounty with or without a warrant scanner.
Note: Ship destruction does not reset these. They stick with the player, maybe even if the player clears his save.
Premenant revocation of docking rights. (IE, never allowed to dock at the station again.)
Immediate 25k bounty.
1 hit Ship destruction by the station.
SECOND OFFENCE:
This can be at ANY Other station in the same controlling faction.
Immediate triple of any existing bounty.
Banned from entering the vicinity of ANY station owned by the faction on pain of death.
Obviously banned from landing in ANY station controlled by that faction.
Actively hunted by local authorities upon entering system.
KOS rules applied to the commander, granting EVERYONE in the factions territory the right to claim the bounty with or without a warrant scanner.
Note: Ship destruction does not reset these. They stick with the player, maybe even if the player clears his save.
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There were a couple of people outside Lave station doing this over the weekend. The amusing thing is that they weren't even very good at it. I made it in and out a couple of times undamaged in a hauler under fire, but then I'm slightly paranoid and noticed what was going on pretty much as soon as I dropped out at the station fork the first docking. It seems that most of their prey was people who were unaware of what was happening and basically being non-maneuvering target dummies. Mad Skillz[TM] being demonstrated by the griefer brigade...
The real issue here is the lack of response by the authorities. People hanging around just outside the station killing random people should really elicit more of a response than just a few Alliance Police Eagles cruising around in circles and not doing very much...
The real issue here is the lack of response by the authorities. People hanging around just outside the station killing random people should really elicit more of a response than just a few Alliance Police Eagles cruising around in circles and not doing very much...
No, unless its a level 80 (or whatever the cap is now) spawn camps a level 5 paladin. Or follows him around, killing all the quest NPCs the Pally is trying to talk to.
This is, effectively, what you've been doing. There's plenty of ways to get a fight in open. This is just griefing and no amount of wigling from your end will change that.
Just because the systems allow it (most likely due to an oversight) doesn't make it not griefing and I really hope FDEV takes action towards this behaviour.
Kudo's for speaking out/talking about the how and what here tho, I gotto give you that
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