Nukes

too much of an 'I Win' button for my tastes, besides the fact that we are civilians who don't get given the keys to the nuclear arsenal as a general rule.

This ^^^. Deployable by major factions... maybe. But considering this is meant to be a dog-fightery kind of game I don't see a role for nukes.
 
This ^^^. Deployable by major factions... maybe. But considering this is meant to be a dog-fightery kind of game I don't see a role for nukes.

I want dreadnaughts to have some sort of big weapon that can hurt another dreadnaught or a station. Whether that's a nuke or something else it doesn't matter.
 
I was thinking only deployable by a dreadnaught Farragut or Interdictor and only used on other capital ships in a conflict zone. Maybe once a side has enough of a their capital ship can fire off a nuke at the enemy capital ship destroying it and giving conflict zones clear resolutions. Same thing for station sieges if those are ever implemented.

Also... why would you not want your massive bomb to give off radiation? No civilians live in space, so it's just added destruction to the enemy whith no risk of making land uninhabitable or giving civilians radiation sickness.

Radiation does stick around in space in the event of a nuclear detonation. It would be a nice way to add boundaries or create no-fly zones.
 
Ship-mounted black hole projector please. If we're going to have doomsday weapons, might as well use them with style.

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Which begs the questions - why do we pay so much for the most common element in the universe?

Because two things in life are certain: Death and taxes.

Next, you'll get fined for tax evasion if you use your fuel scoop in an inhabited system.
 
No. It isn't.
Sure with math and such we can calculate and visualize such destruction, and we can accept it as a fact.
But are you telling me that it doesn't boggle your mind that a one gram explosion anti matter device, is basically a small nuke? 1...gram.

I can fully accept the fact that it IS and does exist, but yeah...that such a tiny amount of matter/antimatter can do that much destruction, is hard to wrap one's head around, I mean can you imagine if someone invented a way to create that kind of bombs, a pencil sized bomb that would explode like a nuke? Imagine ANY kind of security forces, they would likely selfdestruct with paranoia on a totally new scale.
 
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Nukes make big explosions and leave areas uninhabitable.
If i were You i would Google how many Test overground Nukes were Detonatet from the CCCP and the US bevor the Ban and how long they waitet until they send Troups in there or send Villigaers back and told them they could Eat what they grow. I personally will never go near Siberia and Nevada

and dont forget Japan.. and 1961 this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba ( it even did have the full yield )
 
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Compared to the radiation our ships can handle for example near stars, a nuke would have no effect, except to activate our fuelscoops for a few seconds maybe.
 
Compared to the radiation our ships can handle for example near stars, a nuke would have no effect, except to activate our fuelscoops for a few seconds maybe.

So wrong, in so many levels.

There are different kinds of radiation, the greatest danger from a star is 9 times out of ten its heat, and the fuel scoop scoops hydrogen, not radiation =P
 
So wrong, in so many levels.

There are different kinds of radiation, the greatest danger from a star is 9 times out of ten its heat, and the fuel scoop scoops hydrogen, not radiation =P
How do you know if the fuelscoop does not synthesize hydrogen from the particles emitted from the star?
 
How do you know if the fuelscoop does not synthesize hydrogen from the particles emitted from the star?

Err, because that's impossible*. Anyway if you could somehow mash together sub-atomic particles into Hydrogen it'd probably take as much energy to achieve as you'd get out from fusing the Hydrogen so as well as impossible it'd be pointless.

*Alright then "almost definitely impossible given physics as we understand it today"
 
So wrong, in so many levels.

There are different kinds of radiation, the greatest danger from a star is 9 times out of ten its heat, and the fuel scoop scoops hydrogen, not radiation =P

Acutally, the "hydrogen" a star spits out is actually in the form of radiation - protons and electrons. A star is too hot for actual hydrogen nuclei.
 
Err, because that's impossible*. Anyway if you could somehow mash together sub-atomic particles into Hydrogen it'd probably take as much energy to achieve as you'd get out from fusing the Hydrogen so as well as impossible it'd be pointless.

*Alright then "almost definitely impossible given physics as we understand it today"
Of course. Silly me. Flying next to a star emitting many thousands of kelvins worth of energy, radiating intensely across the entire EM spectrum, sucking up hydrogen (that is miraculously chilly) while protected by a magic shield, while waiting for your engine that makes you travel over a thousand times the speed of light to cool down, is childs play in comparison :)

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Acutally, the "hydrogen" a star spits out is actually in the form of radiation - protons and electrons. A star is too hot for actual hydrogen nuclei.
Cyberneticist beat me to it hehehe
 
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My this escalated quickly! There has been some mention of Anti-Matter. I guess in the future a nuke would be like a wood club or throwing rocks.
 
How do you know if the fuelscoop does not synthesize hydrogen from the particles emitted from the star?

Psst, I'll let you in a little secret: hydrogen can be a particle!

Jokes aside, read the "4.1 Stars, Fuel, and Fuel Scooping" section here: http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=106861
:)

Acutally, the "hydrogen" a star spits out is actually in the form of radiation - protons and electrons. A star is too hot for actual hydrogen nuclei.

No, it is not. Each layer of a star has a different temperature, properties, and compositions.
 
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God, no. Radiation would be hundreds of times more devastating in space than on Earth in regards to material damage.

How so? Unless you nuke a station or platform or something then the radiation is just there... Nobody is going to say "damn that was out finest farm land" because with the ship gone there is nothing there but space and radiation and space is a rather abundant resource in space, in fact, so is radiation!
 
How so? Unless you nuke a station or platform or something then the radiation is just there... Nobody is going to say "damn that was out finest farm land" because with the ship gone there is nothing there but space and radiation and space is a rather abundant resource in space, in fact, so is radiation!

A lot of reasons too complicated to get into at the moment, one of the main ones being that the lack of atmosphere doesn't reduce the bomb's radius -- an single nuclear bomb that's about twice the standard load nowadays fired in orbit of a planet could easily destroy a whole country, and it's EMP blast could knock out the entire world.

So basically "because you said so"? :)

Yes, and my PhD, and my research based on official developer statements. :)
 
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