Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread [See new thread]

Shizuka · Feb 7, 2015

Krepose Gavayne said:
I agree that it does appear to be a way to make yourself famous with less risk. Perhaps adjust the values if not playing in Open Play, so that the bounty on your head accrues at one tenth of what it would be in Open Play. Players would have to work a lot harder to build it up, or take the risk and go to Open Play instead.

yea nice mechanich but imagine this, one day u want to go hunt, and you see the first top 5 with 5kk bounty on his head, now you spend 6 hours traveling and waiting, and he never shows up, cus now he is on solo mode, even that he took 3 months
to build up that bounty, and you waste 6 hourst trying to hunt him down.

Its simple, you want fame? play only Open Play.

If you want to have a bounty on solo mode, np, but that bounty should only be shown on your PC on Solo mode.

Joe Spivey · Feb 7, 2015

Not gonna happen. Get used to it.

CMDR Sheehy · Feb 7, 2015

Shizuka said:
yea nice mechanich but imagine this, one day u want to go hunt, and you see the first top 5 with 5kk bounty on his head, now you spend 6 hours traveling and waiting, and he never shows up, cus now he is on solo mode, even that he took 3 months
to build up that bounty, and you waste 6 hourst trying to hunt him down.

Its simple, you want fame? play only Open Play.

If you want to have a bounty on solo mode, np, but that bounty should only be shown on your PC on Solo mode.

24 hours in the day, and you want him to be on-line in the same 6 hours you are on-line? Good luck with that.

Manuco · Feb 7, 2015

Totally.

Currently I could spend days looking for a player that actually lives in the other side of the world and I would never see because Im not playing at 5 in the morning or during work hours.

A timestamp of the last time they were seen along with the system of the wanted player could incite people to chase them. You would be able to see if the player is actually active or you are chasing a ghost!

It would be awesome to track these people down, it would improve the bounty hunting a lot! (which currently depends almost entirely on luck and freaking patience)

Ideas Man · Feb 7, 2015

Things change over time, games change.

Joe Spivey said:
Not gonna happen. Get used to it.

CMDR Sheehy · Feb 7, 2015

Ideas Man said:
Things change over time, games change.

I have a hat...

NewYears1978 · Feb 7, 2015

I would really like to do a private group but right now it is broken..me and my friend are never on the same server even though we are grouped, and have never been able to find each other or even chat it always says "Cannot connect to <username>"

Driver · Feb 7, 2015

Ideas Man said:
Things change over time, games change.

Nothing like a nice defensible general statement.

Why not be specific?

btw, I posted something for you on the previous page.

Phosphora · Feb 7, 2015

Ideas Man said:
Things change over time, games change.

But the diversity of human nature stays. Frontier will provide differing game modes because that makes them more money. Solo or Private group for those that don't like PvP, Open for those that do. You wouldn't expect collective agreement on the taste of Marmite, so don't expect PvE types to suddenly start enjoying PvP.

Cheers, Phos.

Shizuka · Feb 7, 2015

anthonycsheehy said:
24 hours in the day, and you want him to be on-line in the same 6 hours you are on-line? Good luck with that.

If I cannot play the same hours he can, thats my problem, but If I cannot find him even playing 24hs streight cus he is on "Solo mode) cus he dont want to be hunted, that sucks.

Alpha November · Feb 7, 2015

Shizuka said:
If I cannot play the same hours he can, thats my problem, but If I cannot find him even playing 24hs streight cus he is on "Solo mode) cus he dont want to be hunted, that sucks.

As I understand it there's a max 32 peeps in an instance. What are the chances of you being matched in with this person anyway? It's not the game modes that will keep you apart, it's the networking.

Shizuka · Feb 7, 2015

Alpha November said:
As I understand it there's a max 32 peeps in an instance. What are the chances of you being matched in with this person anyway? It's not the game modes that will keep you apart, it's the networking.

And how do u explain the top bounty of (cant remember the system name now) have being in the same system for the last 2 weeks

That player isnt playing on open mode.

And it is not the only case.

Either way, a Time stamp and a "online offline" status will improve that top 5 list.

Cus I would going to hunt them having the risk that the matchmaking will not work for me, but Im not going in a quest knowing that he could be happily playing on Solo mode

At least with my solution SOMONE will see him and try to hunt him down. if not me, someone will.

Alpha November · Feb 7, 2015

Shizuka said:
And how do u explain the top bounty of (cant remember the system name now) have being in the same system for the last 2 weeks
That player isnt playing on open mode.

And it is not the only case.

Either way, a Time stamp and a "online offline" status will improve that top 5 list.

Cus I would going to hunt them having the risk that the matchmaking will not work for me, but Im not going in a quest knowing that he could be happily playing on Solo mode

At least with my solution SOMONE will see him and try to hunt him down. if not me, someone will.

I'm happy with the game modes myself but I understand your frustrations; I'm just not sure that given the global player base and the networking limits (and variables like your internet connection and his internet connection and the vagaries of the matchmaking server) that you have any real chance of seeing him even if he plays in open and is in the same system as you are.

CMDR Sheehy · Feb 7, 2015

Yeah, and don't forget. If this guy's been hunting commanders, switching modes is not permitted, so he'll be in open. If he's got that for hunting NPCs he's probably not worth catching. As any PvPer knows, fighting NPCs is no skill. Not much fun in that.

Dave1235 · Feb 7, 2015

anthonycsheehy said:
If this guy's been hunting commanders, switching modes is not permitted, so he'll be in open.

Can you explain the "not permitted" bit, I genuinely don't understand.

I agree if the bounty was earned through PVP the odds are the player would be in open the majority if not all the time, and if it was earned PVE (group or solo) then no one is ever going to collect the bounty, and most likely we will never know which it was anyway.

DarkWalker · Feb 8, 2015

Shizuka said:
And how do u explain the top bounty of (cant remember the system name now) have being in the same system for the last 2 weeks
That player isnt playing on open mode.

Hard to say. Even when selecting open, the game won't put together players that don't have a good connection between them. So, anyone with a bad Internet connection, a misconfigured router, that plays while someone in the same house is sucking all the bandwidth torrenting things and watching movies, etc, is going to be playing alone even if he selected open and there are other players in the same system.

It's why trying to give benefits for selecting open is futile; any knowledgeable player would be able to select open while not allowing the game to actually match him with other players.

Roland2 · Feb 8, 2015

Dave1235 said:
Can you explain the "not permitted" bit, I genuinely don't understand.

I agree if the bounty was earned through PVP the odds are the player would be in open the majority if not all the time, and if it was earned PVE (group or solo) then no one is ever going to collect the bounty, and most likely we will never know which it was anyway.

I can't find the reference now, but I have read that wanted players can not play in groups or single.

Dave1235 · Feb 8, 2015

Roland2 said:
I can't find the reference now, but I have read that wanted players can not play in groups or single.

I think I know the one you mean, thanks makes sense now.

Vadirus · Feb 8, 2015

I prefer Solo mode. The original game was solo and so I was not yearning for a MMORG. Call me old-fashioned.

Nardz · Feb 8, 2015

Open vs Solo play for traders

So I'm putting this here because this was the first time I was attacked/robbed by another player and I felt a bit noobish. If that was you, congrats, but that's all you'll get from me

It made me think though, if you're focusing on trading, what is the point of playing in the open version of the game? The added risk doesn't seem to have any accompanying reward as I've switched to solo mode and I make the same profit on my runs.

Can anyone shed some light on this for me?