We deserve an Official answer from David Braben (I dont think he really knows what happened with 1.)

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You're just going to swap your ticket on this line for a more expensive hypetrain.

I get what you're saying but don't understand the 'more expensive' part. Last I checked the $40.00 all access package I purchased for SC was still available..

Which version of Dangerous cost $40.00...remind me.

Oh wait, just looked - it costs $45.00 now.
 
The entitlement in strong in OP. Let me help you: you don't deserve anything but to participate in the development of a brilliant game that is still in an very early stage. So stop whining, it gets annoying! Otherwise, please go back to your mindless Pew Pew games.

See, I think people are getting sick of the whole release a game that is still under significant development model. This is a brilliant game that is unfinished. It was released as a bare bones Minimum Viable Product. It is a common practice in much of software development. I'm not so certain it is proving appropriate for the video game industry.
 
The entitlement in strong in OP. Let me help you: you don't deserve anything but to participate in the development of a brilliant game that is still in an very early stage. So stop whining, it gets annoying! Otherwise, please go back to your mindless Pew Pew games.

no, game is RTM not alpha / beta whatever.

such bugs should NEVER end up in live while they were actually reported during beta.period.

pushing such a mess live is unprofessionnal and show total lack of repsect for the customers, especially those who took part of the beta testing, they took time to test it, report issues etc.....

what is even the point of haing a beta if the live patch is exactly the same buggy mess?

enought of this policy game company have nowadays pushing broken games live.

from now on:

game is RTM -> no core mechanics issue tolerated.
should such thing happen -> refund

wouldn't you do the same for a dishwasher / TV whatever you buy? should the product be defective, you either ask for replacement or refund, and you don't wait amonth for *maybe* a firmware update.

same shall apply to games

i paid for a product, product is defective, i get my money back, it's that simple
 
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+Repped.
I think I'll be out for a while. I really don't like how things are going here, and big 'balancing' passes reveal the game is far from being mature, otherwise they would be small fine-tuning interventions.
I spent over 1 month learning how to fly and fight and now too many changes broke my tactics. Too much for me, along with releasing a wonderful, hyped 1.1 that's completely broken and didn't take into account a lot of important improvements requested before (navigation fixes and trading tools).

I think it's the right moment to take a break and enter the Star Citizen world.

I had some of the best fights I've had in the game last night, now that you have to be a little more elegant than just spamming shield cells. The NPCs are harder as well. OK, the collision bug is a stupid issue to let through (that and the PDT bug) but it just meant I parked the Asp and took a Viper out for a spin - a little more carefully through the station exit that's all.

I'd be amazed if the collision fix isn't out within a day or two and honestly the tactics have barely changed, you've just got to be a bit more careful and it's a bit more challenging. Personally I don't have an issue with battles being a little more dangerous.
 

almostpilot

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See, I think people are getting sick of the whole release a game that is still under significant development model. This is a brilliant game that is unfinished. It was released as a bare bones Minimum Viable Product. It is a common practice in much of software development. I'm not so certain it is proving appropriate for the video game industry.

no, game is RTM not alpha / beta whatever.

such bugs should NEVER end up in live while they were actually reported during beta.period.

pushing such a mess live is unprofessionnal and show total lack of repsect for the customers, especially those who took part of the beta testing, they took time to test it, report issues etc.....

what is even the point of haing a beta if the live patch is exactly the same buggy mess?

The game is in bare bones state and after the update with just more bugs.
 
The entitlement in strong in OP. Let me help you: you don't deserve anything but to participate in the development of a brilliant game that is still in an very early stage. So stop whining, it gets annoying! Otherwise, please go back to your mindless Pew Pew games.

A very early stage, huh?

I'm sure when i paid for it it was supposed to have been released.
 
The game is in bare bones state and after the update with just more bugs.

it's RTM, so shall not contain such widespread issues.

RTM means Release To Market, wich is exactly the case here, since anyone can buy it.

actually this is a major failure from FDEV, the current game status (from technicall POV) is BETA (cause contain MAJOR and gamebreaking issues), yet they sold a RTM.

this is actually illegal btw....
 
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releasing an patch THAT BROKEN with things like the collision bug THAT GOT REPORTED MULTIPLE AND MULTIPLE OF TIMES

is like ...... in the face of the community...

they have had an test server for 1.1 WHY NOT FIX THIS .... there and THAN bring it to the live server like every normal moderate intelligent company is doing it????

what now??? everyone stop playing till they bring the next patch/hotfix next week???

I ALLREADY HAVE 2 TICKETS RUNNING FOR LOSSING MY SHIP OR QUIPMENT CAUSE OF BUGS .. DONT NEED AN THIRD

first ticket over 1 week old now


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I think it's the right moment to take a break and enter the Star Citizen world.

Sadly I've done just this. I'd supported SC to a similar level as ED about the same time 15 months ago. I was unhappy with the release of arena commander a few months ago. BUT lately with things here being as they have been for me I decided to reinstall the SC client and I was blown away by the improvements they have made. This led on to me reading more into SC anD one thing strikes me above all else.

THEY COMMUNICATE.

In every possible way from the head man down and regularly on all aspects of the development from technical to lore to fan stuff. They are presenting a far more plausible project at this point. Since ed release it's gone very quiet and we here bits and pieces about the next update in the most brief terms. Right now I can see the road map that SC plans for the next year out to main release. They may not hit the deadlines but they are specific enough to give fans a rough target but enough leeway to cover the company.

SC may well be the game I click on next year and more importantly talk about playing on various gaming forums. ED SADLY could well become a gaming footnote for me which is a shame as ive been here since alpha day one.
 
I don't get it, they release a patch, ok a few bugs slip through... it's not the end of the world guys.
Avoid stomach ulcers by calming down, they will fix the issues; if it upsets you that much, don't play within 3 days of a patch till all is ironed out.


That's physically impossible with the " I want it all, I want it now and I want it for free" generation.
 
releasing an patch THAT BROKEN with things like the collision bug THAT GOT REPORTED MULTIPLE AND MULTIPLE OF TIMES

is like ...... in the face of the community...

they have had an test server for 1.1 WHY NOT FIX THIS .... there and THAN bring it to the live server like every normal moderate intelligent company is doing it????

what now??? everyone stop playing till they bring the next patch/hotfix next week???


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Are you upset about something?
 
visit vanspert

The time of "participation" should have ended with 1.0 in december. A game thats *unplayable* in 1.1 LOL is far from being in a beta stage. It's not already there.

no, game is RTM not alpha / beta whatever.

such bugs should NEVER end up in live while they were actually reported during beta.period.

pushing such a mess live is unprofessionnal and show total lack of repsect for the customers, especially those who took part of the beta testing, they took time to test it, report issues etc.....

what is even the point of haing a beta if the live patch is exactly the same buggy mess?

enought of this policy game company have nowadays pushing broken games live.

from now on:

game is RTM -> no core mechanics issue tolerated.
should such thing happen -> refund

wouldn't you do the same for a dishwasher / TV whatever you buy? should the product be defective, you either ask for replacement or refund, and you don't wait amonth for *maybe* a firmware update.

same shall apply to games

i paid for a product, product is defective, i get my money back, it's that simple


Then you failed to inform yourselves by reading the forums where it was stated multiple times by the devs that this is a long-term development project which will take several year for completion.
 

almostpilot

Banned
Sadly I've done just this. I'd supported SC to a similar level as ED about the same time 15 months ago. I was unhappy with the release of arena commander a few months ago. BUT lately with things here being as they have been for me I decided to reinstall the SC client and I was blown away by the improvements they have made. This led on to me reading more into SC anD one thing strikes me above all else.

THEY COMMUNICATE.

In every possible way from the head man down and regularly on all aspects of the development from technical to lore to fan stuff. They are presenting a far more plausible project at this point. Since ed release it's gone very quiet and we here bits and pieces about the next update in the most brief terms. Right now I can see the road map that SC plans for the next year out to main release. They may not hit the deadlines but they are specific enough to give fans a rough target but enough leeway to cover the company.

SC may well be the game I click on next year and more importantly talk about playing on various gaming forums. ED SADLY could well become a gaming footnote for me which is a shame as ive been here since alpha day one.

This is something very well said
 
Then you failed to inform yourselves by reading the forums where it was stated multiple times by the devs that this is a long-term development project which will take several year for completion.

So if i sell a fuel tank and 4 wheels and advertise it on ebay as a car, that's fine as long as i write on my official forum that the other parts will come over the course of a year?

Interesting.
 
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