Mu77ley
Volunteer Moderator
Popularity of Elite one month after release
- Thread starter Hilight
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Wow, that's a lot of mum's and aunties.
Here is something all of you might find interesting--- this is a screenshot of the age distribution of viewers for one of the Facebook pages I manage. As you can see, with the women the age distribution is spread across all age groups between 18 and 54 fairly evenly while for the men it is weighted towards the younger men between 18 and 34...
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Numbers are nothing without context and sentiment. Now how do your "Likes" stack up against how people feel...
https://m.facebook.com/EliteDangerousOfficial/posts/10155193977010564
https://m.facebook.com/EliteDangerousOfficial/posts/10155193977010564
almostpilot
Banned
What's this Facetube thingymajig that everyone is going on about.... mmm :S
It's something that young people do when they should be playing Elite.
Isn't that illegal or in the least a little bit unnatural? Do you need a licence for it?
Apparently quite well for many people---
https://www.facebook.com/EliteDangerousOfficial/posts/10155193977010564
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=112729
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=112826
Once again Devils Refugee, I have to ask you why you post so much to these forums when you have such a bad view of the game? If you dislike it sooooo much, just walk away...it's not like someone is holding a gun to your head saying 'play this game or else'
Oh you suppose. That's good enough for me
Apparently you've not read through the entire thread have you....
A system is only ever as good as the data fed into it... I'm afraid using Facebook likes as a measure of success of a product is not going to give you the answers you seek... Neither will Fdev... they will keep those values very close to their chest.... My personal view is that Fdev might right about this time start to be concerned over the future of ED.
Considering the clueless that use Facebook, I think Hilight has very informative numbers here- the more 'likes' the worse the game. Portends well for SC (acknowledgement: I am a Chris Roberts fanboy...). Personally, I like ED very much, and that is all that really matters to me, the only downside is that it was released in Alpha and marketed as 400 billion systems when 99.994% (my analysis based on a 150 ly radius real universe) is procedurally generated emptiness. But that is the nature of commercial gaming today that Roberts has been able to overcome with his purely user-funded concept. As a result, he should be able to publish a mature game while we all fun in the Alpha, instead of filling the forums with whining...
What I find interesting in this thread is the real analysis put forward by Aticus. Reading the article, http://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/rns/150109fdev7096b , I am amazed that Frontier considered putting it out at 10 pounds. I think that would have been a real dis of Braben and spacesims in general. I am glad they set their sites higher. I just hope that SC 1.0 will be a complete game, and not have to look forward to paying for updates and content as in Frontier's business plan. I doubt I will be buying any of those.
Philip Coutts
Volunteer Moderator
Statistics can be bent anyway you want to bend them, lies damn lies and all that. Frontier are the only people who know how many people are actively playing and they aren't saying anything at the moment. Once thing for certain is that most people playing probably never look at the facebook page or indeed the forums.
I for one do NOT facebook twitter or any of the others. in fact this is my only foray into forums.
The Facebook user base has grown considerably since EVE was released...
Don't fool yourself
As knowles2 pointed out, these numbers bear out the what I said in my first post...
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Its only a rule of thumb, and I is also related to time playing.
It seems to work, but I would not take it to the Bank...
Its to easy to fake.
Apparently, the naysayers and haters are getting more and more desperate now, because the game has gained excellent review scores and has sold already over 300k copies.
Deal with it that you are a fringe bitter minority, the majority of players loves ED!
Deal with it that you are a fringe bitter minority, the majority of players loves ED!
Good afternoon Pop-pickers, I'm a <famous Radio 1 DJ from the 80's> and here's the latest chart run-down...
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Straight in at number #5 is Kylie Mingoue with "Spam-me-up!"
Down two places this week at number #4 is Shipman's Crab Paste.
New at number 3 is the concept of Facebook!
A non-mover at number #2... it's Elite Dangerous and the Brabens with "Be content with the content!"
And for the 9th year in a row it's "All about Eve" with "A playa owned my sTaTIoN".
<Cut to stage>
Be du du duh be du du duuh du du < bit of intro music for you.
Straight in at number #5 is Kylie Mingoue with "Spam-me-up!"
Down two places this week at number #4 is Shipman's Crab Paste.
New at number 3 is the concept of Facebook!
A non-mover at number #2... it's Elite Dangerous and the Brabens with "Be content with the content!"
And for the 9th year in a row it's "All about Eve" with "A playa owned my sTaTIoN".
<Cut to stage>
But when those services give those likes, in order for the fake accounts to not show up in Facebook's heuristics, they spread their likes about to other unrelated pages. Last I looked, the correlation between facebook likes and actual engagement wasn't good.
Might be why researchers go with posts rather than likes when doing analysis on Facebook data.
Twitter posts (actual posts, not mere retweets) are far more reliable as data than Facebook likes.
It's not that I don't think data collection from social media is useless. It's just that Facebook likes are one of the less reliable data you could ever collect. Too easy to fake out, too many people that will like anything without giving any consideration, many other ways in which they might not correspond to reality. As a rule of thumb, whenever having a high number of likes could have a financial benefit (as is the case in any page that promotes products) I completely disregard them and look for other indications of relevance.
On Metacritic, 80 Metascore and 7.3 Userscore. In other words, nothing to write home about; it's got a lower metascore than the extremely bugged Wasteland 2 and a merely average (yellow range) userscore.