That's not what the OP said.
It just isn't.
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This post is full of individual (personal) opinions. Accept that others might not agree with them.
And unless your here to discuss and suggest possible changes to SC, then whats the point posting at all?
No one here cares if YOU are bored with the game...
LOL, "I want to play a space sim but not actually fly in space! Wah, wah, wah!!" Classic stuff.
I think the point passed over your head at a distance of about 1000 Ly.
OP does want to travel in space, but he wants the great space travel mechanic of the old games, not the terrible loser-cruise they hamstrung this game with in the name of shallow, online pew pew. Loser-cruise and small instances for everything killed so much of what made the original games great. Anywho... these things are very unlikely to change at this point. The lame mechanics are here to stay.
As you spent money on a new pc for the purposes of playing the game I'm surprised that you didn't do minimal research on the actual mechanics of the game.
Nope you're the one who seems to have only read abut Elite. Torus drive is Oolite stuff, in Elite it was "space-skip facility" (Elite Manual, page 21).
Freeform flying with time acceleration became with FE2, and was almost identical in FFE.
FDEV original proposal for E: D was akin to rooms in space, SuperCruise came about because DDF people wanted the freeform flying to be incorporated. SuperCruise conveys the scale of space quite well and enables freeform flying in sensible timescales.
The OP clarified his point on the third page of the thread. Basically, the part that I agree with him is where he dislikes the fact that the SC removes us from the system space and we no longer see the ships or stations that we were around only moments before. It would certainly be more immersive if our ships merely accelerated to superluminal speeds without the "transition" that removes us from our present instance and throws us into the supercruise realm.
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and to speed it more we had the time forward thingie...
Tar Stone
Banned
Too much time is spent in supercruise and not enough time is spent in normal space.
The travel mechanic in 84 Elite was perfection.
SC is great, but should not be front and centre.
By reducing the distance you dropped out of SC at stations, Frontier pushed supercruise even more to the fore and even less time is now spent in normal space.
The dev guys should flat out refuse to implement these stupid decisions. Increasing station dropout distance to where it was in beta would start to balance supercruise with normal flight.
The travel mechanic in 84 Elite was perfection.
SC is great, but should not be front and centre.
By reducing the distance you dropped out of SC at stations, Frontier pushed supercruise even more to the fore and even less time is now spent in normal space.
The dev guys should flat out refuse to implement these stupid decisions. Increasing station dropout distance to where it was in beta would start to balance supercruise with normal flight.
Majinvash
Banned
You could fix a lot of it by making the distance you drop out at a station a lot longer.
This would create a lot more opportunity for interaction.
At the moment, getting to a station drop point is pretty much a huge security blanket.
The result is. You get a VERY short window in each system to interact with another player. That very short time when you catch them running between the sun and that one station in the system that is worth visiting.
This would create a lot more opportunity for interaction.
At the moment, getting to a station drop point is pretty much a huge security blanket.
The result is. You get a VERY short window in each system to interact with another player. That very short time when you catch them running between the sun and that one station in the system that is worth visiting.
My thought is that SC is fine. I actually quite enjoy it and I'm an 84'er. It's much better than the horrible press 'J' mechanic. I think there are some rose tinted retro glasses going on of 'fond' memories in this thread.
SC rarely takes more than a minute or so to get from A to B and I like to scan other ships on the way looking for opportunities as well as watch who is switching onto my back. I really don't get the complaints. The game would get more boring without it.
However, I do think we should be dropping out of SC at the old 14 to 18KM from stations like we use to and I would like to see us drop in at Nav Points to make the SC element more joined up with the rest of the game.
SC rarely takes more than a minute or so to get from A to B and I like to scan other ships on the way looking for opportunities as well as watch who is switching onto my back. I really don't get the complaints. The game would get more boring without it.
However, I do think we should be dropping out of SC at the old 14 to 18KM from stations like we use to and I would like to see us drop in at Nav Points to make the SC element more joined up with the rest of the game.
Nope.
It was made possible by compression of space (Elite '84 and its ludicrously tiny "star systems") and compression of time (Frontier and its StarDreamer)
Neither is being done in ED, so something else needs to be done to reconcile the realistic space distances with sane flight times. SC is FD's solution for that.
IIRC the terminology varied a bit between versions. The speccy version definitely had a Torus drive.
See: The image is low resolution but if you squint you can see the words "TORUS JUMP DRIVE"
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I think they could make SC more exciting. Don't know how though. Maybe navigation should be more important, like avoiding stellar objects. It already is like that, but the UI lacks representation. Another idea would be that the game creates a certain path you need to follow, like a racing track. After selecting your target the game would create something like a tunnel and you need to maneuver trough that tunnel in order to reach your destination quickly, just like a racing game. Don't know if anybody would like that and how difficult it would be to program.
Ah, ok, I stand corrected (on the Spectrum port part at leastIIRC the terminology varied a bit between versions. The speccy version definitely had a Torus drive.
See: The image is low resolution but if you squint you can see the words "TORUS JUMP DRIVE"
).Sorry, and sorry OP. Woke up with a hangover and words are a blur.
I know SC is not for some and I admit that I have nodded off to sleep while in SC, but I think it works. I'm off back to bed. ...
If most people enjoy SC as it is then coming here and complaining you dont like it pointless as its not going to change. I hate reality Tv and Talent shows i think they mindless trivial entertainment for the masses and glorify Celebrity. Every body is entiteld to an opinion but like it or not its a matority rule which is the only valid way to do thing.You dont like suck it up and move on.
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I think the point passed over your head at a distance of about 1000 Ly.
Only point OP made, is that he doesn't know what it is to feel gutted. A big guy from the old days who is gutted because he doesn't like an aspect of a video game. Its pathetic, really.