Putting my ship in storage and checking out until there is a game to be played.
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This is what happens when you invest every waking moment into a game. I agree with the lack of content comments but comparing it to something like X rebirth is somewhat silly in that egosoft have A. Had previous content and engine to build on and B. 16 months of patching since it was released.
1.1 removed a good bit of the gloss from the game for me but I can live with it and ED still feels fresh for me even since playing since May 2014 but im not sinking 10 hours a day into it, im lucky if I get 10 hours a week!.
I'm also unsure what people expect from "goodbye" posts, unless you desire to be convinced to continue playing.
1.1 removed a good bit of the gloss from the game for me but I can live with it and ED still feels fresh for me even since playing since May 2014 but im not sinking 10 hours a day into it, im lucky if I get 10 hours a week!.
I'm also unsure what people expect from "goodbye" posts, unless you desire to be convinced to continue playing.
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I've more-or-less done the same as the OP - sometimes I check back when there's been a new update - but with ever decreasing frequency. That said, it's not as if I'm not happy with my purchase or anything; I signed up for the Beta and have got more than enough hours of fun gameplay to justify the expense. It's just that for the time being I've had enough, until wings gets released and I can actually team up with my Emperor's Grace friends, I'm pretty much out-of-game too.
First and foremost this is a game with massive potential, main reason why I bought it and I guess most people did.
That said the current state of the game is not good enough to captivate players for a long time, changes that have been made although quick/often have been lackluster and without focus. Upgrade existing content first before implementing new content. If the base game is good u can build more.
Its not there and it's gonna make people go away. THIS however is no pay to play so it doesn't matter, people do not need to pay a sub and insert money if they don't want so it's fine, this also is dangerous cause it could mean the game will never be better then it is now or will live up to the expectations.
I personally feel cheated a bit after buying the game, I don't feel the current state justifies the money I payed for it and I feel sad that I already feel like parking up and logging. But I knew what I was getting into when I bought it although I will be more satisfied with the money I spent after a year when they might have released more substance to the game.
That said the current state of the game is not good enough to captivate players for a long time, changes that have been made although quick/often have been lackluster and without focus. Upgrade existing content first before implementing new content. If the base game is good u can build more.
Its not there and it's gonna make people go away. THIS however is no pay to play so it doesn't matter, people do not need to pay a sub and insert money if they don't want so it's fine, this also is dangerous cause it could mean the game will never be better then it is now or will live up to the expectations.
I personally feel cheated a bit after buying the game, I don't feel the current state justifies the money I payed for it and I feel sad that I already feel like parking up and logging. But I knew what I was getting into when I bought it although I will be more satisfied with the money I spent after a year when they might have released more substance to the game.
I feel the same way; I keep an eye on the forums, I read each newsletter with baited breath, eagerly waiting for a sign that a game will be added to this expensive proof of concept tech demo. Alas the developer's priorities appear to be all wrong and there's been nothing said to assuage the concerns of the legions of us scratching our heads wondering,
" where is the content?"
There are people on the forum talking about how eager they are for planetary landings and how they can't wait to hunt a T-Rex! Given how ropey shallow and bare bones the "game" is does anyone honestly believe FD can remotely begin to pull something like that off in a satisfying way?
Given their apparent policy of avoidance when it comes to addressing concerns about shallow game mechanics and lack of content does anyone really expect them to completely overhaul what they've released and actually make a game? I don't, and I think that's exactly the reason why they don't deign to address our concerns or provide any sort of roadmap.
Somewhere a decision maker has decided that what exists is already a complete game that's worth forty pounds and anything you get in addition to that is a bonus. They aren't going to work on the game indefinitely with no money coming in....
I was feeling like the op, bored and just not bothered to log on, i gave it a break just after the 1.1 beta, stayed away for a week or so, i too feel the playability content is lacking.
but i picked it up again and even though i have a fully kitted out Python with around 30m in the bank still, i am just doing the missions for very little reward, the goal i have set myself is to try and get the top ranks in all 3 factions, yeh some of it is a grind again, but i have found some fun in the combat missions, AI is better now since updates, what is annoying is the time between missions appearing, and also the endless USS you have to check to find a target. But i am still really trying to play and like this game.
Hoping wings update will improve things, but i really believe this game will take many months and many updates to realize it's full potential.
I have noticed David himself has been very quiet since launch, especially on the forums, be nice to hear some comments from him as to a roadmap or future of the game.
but i picked it up again and even though i have a fully kitted out Python with around 30m in the bank still, i am just doing the missions for very little reward, the goal i have set myself is to try and get the top ranks in all 3 factions, yeh some of it is a grind again, but i have found some fun in the combat missions, AI is better now since updates, what is annoying is the time between missions appearing, and also the endless USS you have to check to find a target. But i am still really trying to play and like this game.
Hoping wings update will improve things, but i really believe this game will take many months and many updates to realize it's full potential.
I have noticed David himself has been very quiet since launch, especially on the forums, be nice to hear some comments from him as to a roadmap or future of the game.
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You don't know what a tech demo is. They released ED with the base-content and added to it ever since. People have played ED for much longer than the average triple A retail game (usually has about 20 - 30 hours of gameplay).
There's no need to do a complete overhaul. They will continue to add more features and content this year with major updates like 1.1. They mentioned the missions will be improved, better NPC interaction etc.
This year I hope they'll add a Codex with info about the galaxy and factions, random events, Thargoids, more station interiors, ships, mining drones, asteroid stations, artwork of the major characters in the lore, more challenging AI, NPC traffic around high population planets.
When the Wings update is released players will have more fun together.
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While I can't dispute that because yeah somehow there are people that have managed to "play" for an inordinate amount of time whenever I ask them how they've managed to do so in light of the whole having absolutely no content beyond a handful of grindy activities thing the standard response is,
"There's tons of stuff to do, just use your imagination man!"
And it's like... OK, like what? And the standard response to that?
"Oh, you can't think of anything. That's sad." (Maybe it is, but that is not an answer)
"Imma in a spaceship, vroom vroom" (I am easily pleased and a tech demo is all I require)
As far as I'm concerned after a few hours in this game you will have exhausted the length and breadth of any diversity it offers. Once you've got the hang of flying all that's left is repetitive tripe. If you manage to drag it out for even thirty hours I can only assume one is a masochist.
And what are these Wing groups going to do? Maybe they can mindlessly fly back and forth between two points for hours. Sounds like hours of fun.
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An additional comment I would like to make is:
1.1 added new stuff and changes, Wings will also do this.
BUT I think most people agree on the fact that this should have been on the game with launch. If u claim to have a ONLINE game where u can choose your own path u should do what u promise.
Not it trying to be negative but they did dig their own grave a bit..
1.1 added new stuff and changes, Wings will also do this.
BUT I think most people agree on the fact that this should have been on the game with launch. If u claim to have a ONLINE game where u can choose your own path u should do what u promise.
Not it trying to be negative but they did dig their own grave a bit..
X Rebirth better than ED?? I think if you're going to make that comparison you'd have to compare the 2 about 6 weeks after the official release. At 6 weeks post release Egosoft were still trying to get their game to run for more than an hour without crashing. The
campaign didn't work at release and wasn't much better six weeks later. Even now, 18 months down the track there is still no fleet control. The only thing that keeps it remotely playable is all the 3rd party mods that people are creating.
ED was light years ahead of XR at release. It may be a little short on content right now, but in 18 months I believe that will have changed considerably. Even now with all the great mods players have created for XR, I'd still rather play
ED if only for the combat model. Have you tried combat in XR....its even worse than X3 and that's saying something.
Edit: Sorry, quoted the wrong guy.
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Generating new content takes long time months and months of development, maybe years, you really can´t expect that new content is immediately there. It takes long time also to kill all bugs in game code and all that time is increasing time what it takes to generate new content. If you can´t enjoy game as it is, play something else or get a real life while waiting. There is enough complaining here in forums, still I also wan't to be part of complainers, but I am complaing about people who don't know what to do if game doesn't offer enough content for them, ask to yourself what to do next, maybe you should do something else for a while, gaming isn't all life. In every game content is and will be depleted if you play it enough, there is no endless content game, you have to invent content to your life all by yourself.
Oh I am the guy.
Yes I actually agree with you, if you read carefully what I have said.
I have said that X rebirth was atrocious at release. I have also said that ED is better in many respects. The combat model and the graphic and design, sounds even the overall design is very, very, very appealing. I have said that I even like the antiquated board design in the stations.
In what X rebirth is better is the fun factor. ED is boring and soulless...
The game is soooo close, just a little in the right direction. This is why I comment.
Nope, I have hundreds of hours on Battlefield 3, play on just three old maps which never have new content added. It's the same old thing, fly around and shoot things except it is engaging and FUN and ED is neither.
Er, don't release it then.
Imagine an artist doing a solo show of representational paintings, there's a grand unveiling at a trendy gallery, a private view with lots of potential buyers looking around and on every canvas there's just a handful of rough construction lines.
"This isn't a painting, this is a rough outline suggesting general proportions and where compositional elements are going to be placed..."
The buyers say, downing their free wine and bottles of rolling rock in disgust.
"Oh well of course I haven't actually finished the paintings yet."
Says the artist
"That takes time. Just have patience, it'll get there."
Er, no ****. I've got plenty of other things to get on with and I do, and I don't play Elite as it is.... But because I do have an interest in it and do want to see it grow into something good despite my doubts as to how likely that may be I still feel like its worth posting on the forums and keeping an eye out for any glimmer of hope that things will move in the right direction.
Yeah, I don't think that's anyone here.
I think it is fair to say we have 2 groups:
Group 1 is happy with the current state and likes to grind
Group 2 sees the huge potential but also knows the game is lacking in every aspects except fore GFX/sounds.
I think that we don't need more content per see but we firstly need that the content that is available makes any sense:
-the bulletin board missions need to be fleshed out
-the reactions of NPC when they encounter you need to be fleshed out
-the reputation system and how it impacts you need to be fleshed out
-USS need to be fleshed out
-ingame comms need to be fleshed out
-mining is there but it needs to be fleshed out
-people need a proper tutorial: a space kadett school to learn the way your ship and the universe works
A lot of stuff is there but it just is to basic in way that it doen't allow people to immerse themselves in the game... unless you have an endless amount of immagination ....
But then we have stuff that basicly makes sure player can't immerse themselves:
-the galnet story snippets don't immerse you because after 2 months of info-snippets nothing in the universe changed...
-we can influence factions etc... but we don't know how the universe is evolving: in order for us to make a choice we need to know if federation, allience or empire is gaining power.
How can we make an engaging choice if we don't have a clue about the overall picture.
-Because of the manual injection of events and the lack of overview anything you do in the game at this moment is useless...
-In a multiplayer game with 400 biljon systems the devs decided it was a good idea to not have player clans/guilds that could rule 1 system... .
It is because of these things overall that players after a while just don't care anymore.
By design we basicly all have to feel small and meaningless.
We will have to work like ants in a colony grinding our way in this big 'universe' with endless 'possibilities'...
and the devs will decide when it's time to inject some event to spice up things.
Group 1 is happy with the current state and likes to grind
Group 2 sees the huge potential but also knows the game is lacking in every aspects except fore GFX/sounds.
I think that we don't need more content per see but we firstly need that the content that is available makes any sense:
-the bulletin board missions need to be fleshed out
-the reactions of NPC when they encounter you need to be fleshed out
-the reputation system and how it impacts you need to be fleshed out
-USS need to be fleshed out
-ingame comms need to be fleshed out
-mining is there but it needs to be fleshed out
-people need a proper tutorial: a space kadett school to learn the way your ship and the universe works
A lot of stuff is there but it just is to basic in way that it doen't allow people to immerse themselves in the game... unless you have an endless amount of immagination ....
But then we have stuff that basicly makes sure player can't immerse themselves:
-the galnet story snippets don't immerse you because after 2 months of info-snippets nothing in the universe changed...
-we can influence factions etc... but we don't know how the universe is evolving: in order for us to make a choice we need to know if federation, allience or empire is gaining power.
How can we make an engaging choice if we don't have a clue about the overall picture.
-Because of the manual injection of events and the lack of overview anything you do in the game at this moment is useless...
-In a multiplayer game with 400 biljon systems the devs decided it was a good idea to not have player clans/guilds that could rule 1 system... .
It is because of these things overall that players after a while just don't care anymore.
By design we basicly all have to feel small and meaningless.
We will have to work like ants in a colony grinding our way in this big 'universe' with endless 'possibilities'...
and the devs will decide when it's time to inject some event to spice up things.
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No they shouldn't. This is a forum for people to express their opinions. I disagree that the game is boring personally, and I have more than enough enjoyment in the games to keep playing; however, I would defend the rights of those to disagree and state they are leaving as that is part of the reason we have forums -- for active, lively discussion. I don't think it's fair to exclude any comment or opinion as long as it isn't hateful, defamatory or personal.
If the forum is flooded with topics like these it means there is indeed a problem....
I see even a lot of old 'elite' fans, admitting the game needs to be fleshed out more which means a lot and the old standard response of 'use your immagination' is used less and less.
It is not 1984 anymore but 2015 and a lot has changed in the gaming industrie.... but somehow i feel that David B. is just to old to understand the changes and he is stuck in the past.
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