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Passive-aggressive much? Don't really care if they are going to change it or not, and I'm sure they had motives to make it the way they did. I doubt, though, that those motives can invalidate what I've posted above. Maybe circumvent it by claiming that the open is exclusively meant for cooperative play, which is a dis-honest way of moving the goal-post at best.
To repay your passive aggressive : I don't think that traders that grind in solo should flash their wealth farting through silk in open
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Passive-aggressive much? Don't really care if they are going to change it or not, and I'm sure they had motives to make it the way they did. I doubt, though, that those motives can invalidate what I've posted above. Maybe circumvent it by claiming that the open is exclusively meant for cooperative play, which is a dis-honest way of moving the goal-post at best.
To repay your passive aggressive : I don't think that traders that grind in solo should flash their wealth farting through silk in open
What on earth is passive aggressive about what I wrote? I think maybe you need to look the term up. then you will learn that a) as a psychological condition it was debunked years ago and b) Everyone is passive aggressive to a greater or lesser degree. Because of (b)he term as a criticism of someone's style of communication is redundant. Maybe you need to learn a new buzz phrase?
Oh and your response isn't even passive aggressive, it's just rude.
Passive-aggressive much? Don't really care if they are going to change it or not, and I'm sure they had motives to make it the way they did. I doubt, though, that those motives can invalidate what I've posted above. Maybe circumvent it by claiming that the open is exclusively meant for cooperative play, which is a dis-honest way of moving the goal-post at best.
To repay your passive aggressive : I don't think that traders that grind in solo should flash their wealth farting through silk in open
ED is more of a theme park game, come here, watch the station appear, go there watch the Jupiter rising. No player/group is ever going to get significant control in here, it's the way of the design. No castles apart from those constructed by FD. Snail trails, as you put it. So, no harm from diluting the galaxies.
What leaves me puzzled is why there is solo and groups, when, essentially, groups is the same thing as solo? I guess they didn't think this through and decided to keep all three anyway, even though solo isn't needed at all, as "groups" has exactly the same functionality. Or am I missing something?
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What leaves me puzzled is why there is solo and groups, when, essentially, groups is the same thing as solo? I guess they didn't think this through and decided to keep all three anyway, even though solo isn't needed at all, as "groups" has exactly the same functionality. Or am I missing something?
Given that the three game modes are simply different settings of the matchmaking system, keeping solo (rather than forcing the player to make a personal private group with only themself as a member) is a shortcut - no great programming effort - and it remains compliant with the inclusion of solo / private groups / open in the earliest statements regarding the game design.
They are the same thing, but the solo button lets you skip the "selection of people to group with" bit, as well as some serverside routines, so it's simply there for efficiency.ED is more of a theme park game, come here, watch the station appear, go there watch the Jupiter rising. No player/group is ever going to get significant control in here, it's the way of the design. No castles apart from those constructed by FD. Snail trails, as you put it. So, no harm from diluting the galaxies.
What leaves me puzzled is why there is solo and groups, when, essentially, groups is the same thing as solo? I guess they didn't think this through and decided to keep all three anyway, even though solo isn't needed at all, as "groups" has exactly the same functionality. Or am I missing something?
Passive-aggressive much? Don't really care if they are going to change it or not, and I'm sure they had motives to make it the way they did. I doubt, though, that those motives can invalidate what I've posted above. Maybe circumvent it by claiming that the open is exclusively meant for cooperative play, which is a dis-honest way of moving the goal-post at best.
To repay your passive aggressive : I don't think that traders that grind in solo should flash their wealth farting through silk in open
Actually, open was meant to be a massive PvE universe where PvP was "Rare and Meaningful"... Most people who have been following what DB and the devs have been saying from the start and even lately, including the latest interview with Escapist Magazine, all point to the idea that the game was designed around cooperative play.
The whole design of the game, the servers, the p2p, the instancing are all counter intuitive for a purely PvP environment. As our friend Lucius Fox would have said:
Well instead of telling me to shut up and read the post, you sugar coat it. You tried to dissimulate your hostility by appearing to be helpful (text book). Never-mind, I'm not that thin skinned anyway and there is always the possibility I misunderstood your post. About my rudeness, sorry I guess but it's only your signature with a twist
and it was in jest, not meant to offend you.@Robert Maynard. Clear as crystal mate, although this thread is for talking about it or am I missing something?
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Robert Maynard
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Merely pointing something out that you may have missed - given that you indicated that you had not read the whole thread.
Yeah you have a point but in my defense this is hardly the first time developers are surprised when their envisioned model is twisted for the better by the players. And it is a very sad truth that the P2P model is inadequate for MMO games.
@Moriarte I agree with you ... sadly. Could have been so much more.
@Robert Fair enough, thank you.
I bought the game to co-op , play solo or PVE. I did not buy the game so some person in his trcked out whatever shooting anything for no reason apart from a idea to mess up somebody's wor, Or the one with no friends who has downloaded the latest cheat off Google .
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Would have bothered you to do that in a separate Galaxy then the one used for open play?
Yes. I want to play as and when I want (which as it happens is mostly Open). And no - neither you nor I have a say in what modes people choose to play in. It's their game, bought with their money and played in their time and none of our business.
Where would you rather play? In a universe of 300k+ players, in a group of 4,500+ (Mobius) or just with one's self in Solo?
See, there seems to be a minority of pew pew loving players (nothing wrong with them) who seem to have claimed open for themselves. And just to prove it is theirs, they'll mess up the day of anything else that moves. Fortunately, go two jumps away and you don't see any combat loving aggressors. So in fact, many more PvE players are playing in open than you would like to admit, because if you did, you would have to give up the claim of it being a PvP frag fest.
It is not. Get over it. Enjoy the game with the rest of us.
Where would you rather play? In a universe of 300k+ players, in a group of 4,500+ (Mobius) or just with one's self in Solo?
See, there seems to be a minority of pew pew loving players (nothing wrong with them) who seem to have claimed open for themselves. And just to prove it is theirs, they'll mess up the day of anything else that moves. Fortunately, go two jumps away and you don't see any combat loving aggressors. So in fact, many more PvE players are playing in open than you would like to admit, because if you did, you would have to give up the claim of it being a PvP frag fest.
It is not. Get over it. Enjoy the game with the rest of us.
I agree, I play "OPEN" and in truth its the quietest PvP I have ever played.
First Solo - Get strong ship, upgrade him IN PEACE. Then, go Open and release Hell in you.
One question:
Is there some kind of boost (credit, rank) helped by your friends?
Like example: Diablo 3 (Hero level boost)???
One question:
Is there some kind of boost (credit, rank) helped by your friends?
Like example: Diablo 3 (Hero level boost)???
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Can't believe this thread is still going.
Different people are happy with their preferred modes and you are never going to change the minds of the entrenched views. The best you can do is try to change the minds of the people who are "Swing Voters"
All three modes have problems, which I am sure will be fixed in future updates, however DB and FD seem to have made it quite clear that the modes are going to stay as they are, so you have had it from the horses mouth and time to stop flogging a dead one.
Bigtaff
Different people are happy with their preferred modes and you are never going to change the minds of the entrenched views. The best you can do is try to change the minds of the people who are "Swing Voters"
All three modes have problems, which I am sure will be fixed in future updates, however DB and FD seem to have made it quite clear that the modes are going to stay as they are, so you have had it from the horses mouth and time to stop flogging a dead one.
Bigtaff
First Solo - Get strong ship, upgrade him IN PEACE. Then, go Open and release Hell in you.
One question:
Is there some kind of boost (credit, rank) helped by your friends?
Like example: Diablo 3 (Hero level boost)???
Hehe. "from Hell's heart, I stab at thee!..."
With the Wings update (1.2) it should be possible for groups to share the results of actions by any member of the group. So... if one member of the group gets the kill, the whole group gets the bounty... or the fine. How far that goes, i.e. whether that includes combat ranking is I think yet to be revealed.
Where would you rather play? In a universe of 300k+ players, in a group of 4,500+ (Mobius) or just with one's self in Solo?
See, there seems to be a minority of pew pew loving players (nothing wrong with them) who seem to have claimed open for themselves. And just to prove it is theirs, they'll mess up the day of anything else that moves. Fortunately, go two jumps away and you don't see any combat loving aggressors. So in fact, many more PvE players are playing in open than you would like to admit, because if you did, you would have to give up the claim of it being a PvP frag fest.
It is not. Get over it. Enjoy the game with the rest of us.
Guys easy with the piano on the stairs. I was addressing my question to the guy that was saying he wants solo, private and PVE. Don't drop your straw man on me.
Nobody claimed anything nor is saying how others should to play and of course there are more star systems in ED virtual Galaxy then potential human players in the world (Capt. Obvious strikes again) but (always a but I'm telling you) nobody explained me why a guy that I can't see should be able to mess with my game world? I'll answer myself , sic, because Braben said so. OK, I rest my case, as I don't have Sisyphean inclinations.
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