Elite Dangerous Movie Play™

[Blackfoxx]

I really just don't get why there is any resistance to us being able to record movies showing no hud whatsoever for making actually rather decent movies. For a game so graphicaly stunning as elite dangerous, it is like having a great body but having to stay wrapped up in a boiler suit. There has been so many games where fan made movies have improved the PR for the game that it would be impossible to list all of them, but i can see no reason not to implement at least something that fans actually want and make it so that it even keeps the moaners and nay sayers happy too. so this idea of movie mode sounds perfect. Noone that is suggesting the ability to have cameras, no ui views or anything is asking for any kind of exploit over the game to further their game standing, they are just asking for something as simple as an option to make movies probably close to space battles seen in so many sci fi movies that lets face it probably inspire them to play games like this in the first place.

Why deny that?

What really is the reason?

I support this idea of MOVIE MODE whole heartedly and implore FD to take another long look at this and take a step towards the solid fans that want it as an option, rather than resist 100% with no discussion as to whether they like the idea or not.

 

[Blackfoxx]

I have to show this as an example because it clearly defines what passion to make movies can create! Top marks to its creator, who i'm sure would benefit massively from another look at this by FD as an option for the fans.

[video=youtube;KWfDxEcDxoU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWfDxEcDxoU[/video]

 

[Commander Dave]

I would like to see an option to have the last x minutes of play dumped to the hard drive that can then be reviewed from any angle.
So when you've done that cool thing you can go back and look at it from a different perspective.
I'd love to see some of my docking shinanegins from a different viewpoint.

 

[Kerrash]

Want want want. Sadly, don't see it happening any time soon however

 

[Hilight]

NOT TO BE MERGED – THERE ARE NO MOVIE PLAY THREADS

So I have been trying to figure out a way in which players can make films, scenes or just take selfies in Elite Dangerous, Without upsetting anyone or getting into bun fights over immersion or cheating.

My solution is to take external views OUT of the game, so if you are playing Elite Dangerous ‘the game’ you will NOT be able to have an external view. END OF – Or until such time as FD decide to put views in the game.

So how can you view your ship and make movies then you ask?

Well you add Movie Play

Definition of ‘Movie Play’ – Think of the way beta 1.1 works (Kinda)
Firstly let me very quickly say that this is only using what has already been developed and will have the lowest of priority for any support! With that Said...
Movie Play Will...

• Not allow you to earn rank
• Not allow you to earn credits
• Not allow you to earn exploration data
• Not allow you to sell anything
• Not allow you to buy anything
• Not allow you to effect any ‘Game Mode’ in any shape or form
• Allow you external views
• Only allow you to use what you already own
• Allow you to invite friends to make movies in the same way as Group Play
• Allow you to film unconnected to Game mode

Definition of ‘Game Mode’
Open/Group/Solo

So in a nutshell then.
Movie mode allows you to take your assets at your current location/system into a private group that has no effect on you progress or stats. It could well be tacked onto training.
In this mode you can fool around, film, take selfies, use external views just like the Dev team do for promo videos.
If you go pop, you just re-spawn at the main star Nav point.

All this enables players to look at their ships, skins, take photos and record videos, without any impact on their progress or on the ‘real galaxy’

I’ll end by repeating that fact that this Movie tool will come last in terms of support.
Options

Open Play
Private Group
Solo
Movie -

Dare I say... Thoughts?

Nutter

A very cool idea that really needs to be implemented R+OP

I have to show this as an example because it clearly defines what passion to make movies can create! Top marks to its creator, who i'm sure would benefit massively from another look at this by FD as an option for the fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWfDxEcDxoU

Everyone ought to be given the chance to make a few movies like this....Man talk about great publicity for Elite (please take notice Devs) Stuff like this really shows some of the best that ED has to offer R+

 

[Ravenov]

I would be happy with a replay editor like you get in racing and flight sims, save a small file that contains info in what your ship and others are doing, so that the game can recreate the circumstances later, with free views that you can play with.

 

[Joe Spivey]

Love the idea of being able to produce this kind of content +1. "Bring on the empty horses!"

 

[Alien]

NOT TO BE MERGED – THERE ARE NO MOVIE PLAY THREADS

Elite: The Movie
Elite: The Film
Elite: A Fan Written Story

And there is also the Elite Movie being made by a friend of Allen Stroud (I am sure I can find the thread if I have to)

Before you make a statement like "There are no movie threads", try using the search function

 

[Ravenov]

Elite: The Movie
Elite: The Film
Elite: A Fan Written Story

And there is also the Elite Movie being made by a friend of Allen Stroud (I am sure I can find the thread if I have to)

Before you make a statement like "There are no movie threads", try using the search function

He said Movie Play ... not just movie, mostly to keep it separate from the regular external views discussion, so it didn't get merged and become lost.

 

[Joe Spivey]

A drama (or comedy or whatever floats it for you) based around the Jaques station would be interesting, sort of like Coronation Street in space.

 

[Vi.king]

Without upsetting anyone or getting into bun fights over immersion or cheating.

I never understood why an external view (that ONLY shows your ship, no interface, no crosshair, no targets etc) would be cheating or would break immersion...

 

[Alien]

He said Movie Play ... not just movie, mostly to keep it separate from the regular external views discussion, so it didn't get merged and become lost.

Furthur searching, I find more examples ... and define "movie play" either it's a movie, or a play ... not sure how you can have a movie play ... I mean, yes I've seen movies about plays, Birdman being a recent example ... but I don't quite get what Nutter means by "movie play".

I'm not against Nutter's idea, and I do think it's a good one, I just took issue with him saying there were no movie threads, when there are.

 

[Commander Debic]

I like the idea of being able to watch and save a replay of your last x minutes of play from the viewpoint of a dynamic 3rd person camera.

You can't use it whilst in play. You'd had to have saved and exited or be docked.

Capturing your exploits from 3rd person PoV is I think what is most sought after

War thunder does this right. After you have finished a flying sortie in WT you can go view what you have just been doing and zoom the angles, go in and out of cockpit. 3rd person and 1st person views. Rear, side and front views. Following as well I don't think they have a forward, looking back view though. That would also be a nice addition.
Agree with Brittankic here though I think you would need to also include your exploits using a system like War Thunders.

It has no effect at all on any of your progression or rankings, but does allow those of us who wish to make our movies of our adventures to do so, without impacting the game, or any others game.

 

[Commander Debic]

+1 Cmdr, and looks to be practical in terms of implementation, I guess its just going to be down to getting enough support for this mode too give some impetus for the Devs to look at it, and then see if it can be done, as part of the near future development path for ED. It certainly would be a great focus for promoting ED as the Machinima Community has the creative will to make great content, Space Operas need not just be confined to "the force awakens", I could see also see Kate Russell being able to expand on her "Mostly Harmless" journey...


Edited to add:

@Nutter could you perhaps asks the Mods to copy this thread into the "Dangerous Suggestions" and perhaps sticky it, lets face it so many decent suggestion threads just get lost as the "flamewar troll and pityparty threads push so much more positive and worthwhile stuff off, new posts Page One...

A movie mode has been called for so often and suggestions have been put forward and the answer coming back has mainly been they will look into it sometime in the future. I think it is a real shame it hasn't yet been incorporated and I hope they will introduce something like this in the near future but I am not sure it has much priority as none have mentioned it again for a while.
I think it is a glaring error that we don't have this in Elite, so many simulations do have some form, as we have such a fantastic galaxy to show off to other gamers who are looking around, and some good movies with more professional touches than looking out of a space ship cockpit could even help sales in a good way.

 

[Ravenov]

Furthur searching, I find more examples ... and define "movie play" either it's a movie, or a play ... not sure how you can have a movie play ... I mean, yes I've seen movies about plays, Birdman being a recent example ... but I don't quite get what Nutter means by "movie play".

I'm not against Nutter's idea, and I do think it's a good one, I just took issue with him saying there were no movie threads, when there are.

In this case play as in open/group/solo play, just a 4th option that is designed solely for creating movies.

 

[Alien]

In this case play as in open/group/solo play, just a 4th option that is designed solely for creating movies.

Yep ... ignore anything I say ... including this.

 

[Hap]

Maybe I've picked this up wrong but it didn't sound like you were expecting the movie mode to be multi player?
Would that not limit a lot of what people would want to do in movies?

if it wasn't multi player then it would need another instance of the universe, like the beta which adds some level of extra cost.

Don't get me wrong I think it would be great to unleash the creativity of those who would make movies in game if they could have some form of external view, just not sure this solution would deliver what they want.

 

[Nutter]

Yep ... ignore anything I say ... including this.

Fear not, I picked up on your clever use of my words and sentiment

 

[Loskene]

I don't get why you didn't just suggest spectator mode like every other game has, instead of this convoluted system. Press X to turn into a camera is a lot better than logging out into some totally different game mode just to take a clean shot. Since we're purportedly getting vanity camera drones as a module later the whole thing seems a bit moot.

 

[Rhonda]

Nice idea, Nutter, but I can't be bothered to swap from open to solo just for the HighRes-screens, so I doubt I would swap to movie mode often. I'd prefer to have HighRes-screens and a movie-mode in (open)game. But ya, I know, it's an optional feature that would be immersion breaking for people that don't want to use it anyways. *sigh*

Nevertheless... supported, because I like to see movies and machinimas in the ED universe.