Frequency, Vibration, Energy.
Only think about them.
Only think about them.
Religion in the ED universe? How has it evolved?
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Regarding the communism and things: there is private property in general and private property on the means of production. Can't think of english equivalent, but there are two different words in russian, one about private possessions such as house, car etc. and one about things like land, factories and companies. Well, in earliest societies, people pretty much had their own stuff and shared their income (mostly food they got from hunting and gathering). Not saying that's a highest point of civilization, but that is still the case.
As for chimps, they're not humans. Recent research by the lovejoy pretty much make all extrapolation on humans from apes void.
As for religion, well, there are two types of religion, regulated and not regulated. Druids and things are not regulated, they might be working on their religion towards their own goals but that really requires a system closed from outside interventions else it would fall apart eventually (just as it happened). Regulated religions, on the other hand, such as christianity, might even exist in e:d space, especially if those weird stations with Feudal government made all kinds of space travel prohibitely expensive. However, they certainly wouldn't create neat ship modules. More like traditional whiskey. Or traditional beef. Or traditional whatever.
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More like, perhaps it's because of american society. Soviet cosmonauts didn't suddenly become religious after they've been out there and seen no god. Starting from the first human in space, Gagarin. "I see no god out here". What a shame.
lots to pick out there. Here goes....
We have gained so much knowledge that we have come to the conclusion that there is no reason why. We are here simply by accident. We evolved and became intelligent. After you die that is it I'm afraid. It would be nice to think that there is somewhere we go when we die but we are simply a form of life like any other form of life on Earth. The reason that some of the Apollo astronauts became religious was because they were overwhelmed by their experience.
Our lives don't last long in the big scheme of things so it is up to us to make the most of the time that we have.
Nice Post, Odball, But there is somewhere to go, have yourself Buried, naked in a cardboard, & plant a Garden where you lie. The Universe, wastes nothing, & everything you Were, feeds the Garden above you, in this way you Nourish New Life.
If you liked that, then your'e gonna Love this.......Science has recently Discovered, that our very D.N.A is Vibrating, & if you play a Frequency of 528,Hz toward it, the D.N.A begins to Heal, For me this is the Best bit, if you accept that Frequency is a Vibration, & that Sound is merely a combination of these two, what this means is the Moment we Begin Life, we start to transmit, when we Die, the Broadcast is over.....But our Transmission Continues on, out into the Ether, merging with the untold billions of other Transmissions, continuing Onward & Outward, only losing Amplitude.
If you liked that, then your'e gonna Love this.......Science has recently Discovered, that our very D.N.A is Vibrating, & if you play a Frequency of 528,Hz toward it, the D.N.A begins to Heal, For me this is the Best bit, if you accept that Frequency is a Vibration, & that Sound is merely a combination of these two, what this means is the Moment we Begin Life, we start to transmit, when we Die, the Broadcast is over.....But our Transmission Continues on, out into the Ether, merging with the untold billions of other Transmissions, continuing Onward & Outward, only losing Amplitude.
The real question is whether SC will have shipped by 3300. 
I'll get my coat...
I'll get my coat...
I suspect that many earth-originated religions will/would morph their scripture to remain relevant and "plausible". I would expect this to be the case for some of the more dominant and progressive religions, while others will/would die out almost completely (eg Viking mythology).
I would also expect new-to-human religions from other parts of the Galaxy to take hold, particularly from more advanced and well-traveled species beyond humans.
Mostly, though, I'd expect most sophisticated beings to be agnostic or aetheist, as many of the "old" religions struggle to keep pace with modern scientific discoveries that would increasingly call into question the existence of a higher life form, and as the moral values of old start to look like relics from a distant past.
I would also expect new-to-human religions from other parts of the Galaxy to take hold, particularly from more advanced and well-traveled species beyond humans.
Mostly, though, I'd expect most sophisticated beings to be agnostic or aetheist, as many of the "old" religions struggle to keep pace with modern scientific discoveries that would increasingly call into question the existence of a higher life form, and as the moral values of old start to look like relics from a distant past.
I think religion would be alive and kicking. In fact i think seeing space and how it isnt so random at all but pretty ordered, and seeing how rare our planet is and we are would make people, and does make people feel a sense of wonder.
This will increase in the future as we discover more.
Also to the guy saying earth was the centre there is no mention of that in the bible. He created the heqvens and the earth. So stars and the universe and us. Of course the bible is written by humans so its going to be centred on our events.
The more i see of life i believe in a reason and intelligence. Though its not like some people confusedly think some old guy with a beard that made it all.
Ps there are religious groups in game.with systems and stations.
This will increase in the future as we discover more.
Also to the guy saying earth was the centre there is no mention of that in the bible. He created the heqvens and the earth. So stars and the universe and us. Of course the bible is written by humans so its going to be centred on our events.
The more i see of life i believe in a reason and intelligence. Though its not like some people confusedly think some old guy with a beard that made it all.
Ps there are religious groups in game.with systems and stations.
Yeah I believe your'e in the Ballpark, if one accepts Life in other parts of the Universe, then it is not unreasonable to posit, that they had a similar Evolutionary Process, as Ourselves, so I believe that Spirituality, & Religion, have their Roots, in the Dawn of Civilization, & yes I agree, the older we get, the further we seem to get from Religion, as Science brings answers & predictability to what we can Observe.
Whether or not Religion would be Relevant, in 3300, I believe yes, for there are always going to be, groups of People large or small, who have a need for a God, & live their lives, according to a Creed.
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That's it for me Dominico, Goodnight, ~Jami.
Whether or not Religion would be Relevant, in 3300, I believe yes, for there are always going to be, groups of People large or small, who have a need for a God, & live their lives, according to a Creed.
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That's it for me Dominico, Goodnight, ~Jami.
I think it will go more the way that Star Trek sees it. There it seems that religion is still around although agnostics/atheists are more the norm/majority as we develop. Even across other species it seems that religion has been relegated primarily to more of a ritual, cultural practice, a tradition more than a belief with people actually believing in a creator, supernatural things or, deity or arcane medieval beliefs or whatever. That makes more sense to me, and seems more realistic.
There will always be those hardcore groups devoted to their religions, as this is a hard cycle to break when passed down through the generations (often without choice).
Perhaps in ED, if we looked 4300 or 5300 year range that this would diminish further or be almost irrelevant. Considering, how far we have come in the last 2k years, perhaps this will accelerate further in the next 2k years.
There will always be those hardcore groups devoted to their religions, as this is a hard cycle to break when passed down through the generations (often without choice).
Perhaps in ED, if we looked 4300 or 5300 year range that this would diminish further or be almost irrelevant. Considering, how far we have come in the last 2k years, perhaps this will accelerate further in the next 2k years.
Sometime after 3000 there began a great revival, when physics, after 1000 years of intense scientific exploration and examination was unable to come up with an explanation of exactly how the universe began. In the early 20th century, astro-physicists developed the theory of the big bang and carried the regression of the following expansion back to within one second of creation.
By the 21st century that regression had been taken to within a billionth of a second of the moment the big bang began, and all mankind had great hopes that science would finally have the ultimate answer of how we got here. We were finally able by 3000 to take it within 1x10 -23000000000000000000 but never to the very beginning.
But after many centuries of human and alien alike giving all resources to answering this question, mankind began to lose hope until a long-haired zealot from Eravate began spreading the gospel of the one God from ancient times, called many names on many planets besides Yaweh and Alla on Sol. This revival has continued to spread through the galaxy and now claims over 83 trillion adherants.
By the 21st century that regression had been taken to within a billionth of a second of the moment the big bang began, and all mankind had great hopes that science would finally have the ultimate answer of how we got here. We were finally able by 3000 to take it within 1x10 -23000000000000000000 but never to the very beginning.
But after many centuries of human and alien alike giving all resources to answering this question, mankind began to lose hope until a long-haired zealot from Eravate began spreading the gospel of the one God from ancient times, called many names on many planets besides Yaweh and Alla on Sol. This revival has continued to spread through the galaxy and now claims over 83 trillion adherants.
In 3300 the driving force of the ED universe is the FSD
Pardon the pun, but it seems to me that any religion capable of spreading across the explored Galaxy would have to use the principles of space time as central to its beliefs.
So... In the beginning space was infinitely small but time was infinitely big.
Everything that could be known, was known, but as space expanded so more time compressed.
In the end the opposite state will mean that time will be small, and space so big, that nothing will be able to happen any more.
From this, two theories arose, the recyclers believed that the process was cyclic and that the infinite expansion of space reversed under the forces of dark matter leading to the birth of the next Big Bang.
The other theory was the infinite wave. This is effectively the same as the recyclers except that the universe is created fresh, with all memory of the previous universes erased.
Personally, I'm agnostic as was stated so wisely elsewhere, it happens
Pardon the pun, but it seems to me that any religion capable of spreading across the explored Galaxy would have to use the principles of space time as central to its beliefs.
So... In the beginning space was infinitely small but time was infinitely big.
Everything that could be known, was known, but as space expanded so more time compressed.
In the end the opposite state will mean that time will be small, and space so big, that nothing will be able to happen any more.
From this, two theories arose, the recyclers believed that the process was cyclic and that the infinite expansion of space reversed under the forces of dark matter leading to the birth of the next Big Bang.
The other theory was the infinite wave. This is effectively the same as the recyclers except that the universe is created fresh, with all memory of the previous universes erased.
Personally, I'm agnostic
as was stated so wisely elsewhere, it happens The likelihood of and/or type of religion in a given system could be generated based upon the culture and history of the system/area, and the physical/economic/political freedom that it's residents enjoy. Lots of freedom? A self-centred ideology would probably prevail, and religious zeal would be fairly low. Too little freedom? The opposite.
And you can add to that the sure and certain knowledge that wherever there are those who crave power then there will surely be religion. Because religion is, and always has been, the single best way to control the masses.
I would hazard a guess that the efficacy of religion as a control tool drops as the tech level (thus, the education level) of society rises. This could be used to estimate the balance of control methods (political/cultural/economic/physical/etc) that is likely to be employed by the local authority on a given planet/landmass/etc, and this would determine the types of gameplay/missions/tasks you might expect to be offered in such a place.
Really? Then how about the USA where you, in practice, can't be elected unless you endorse the Christian god? What about the Christian fundamentalists who work to effect policy. What about the Vatican and its de facto power over millions of catholics? Religion has no power?
I would argue game has religion in it already. (a bit nit picking here but hear this out) Credit comes from latin word "Credere" witch means: "Belief, Trust" (Hence: Credit Card) , and the world Religion in latin "Religare" : "To "Bind, Obligation, Bond" (Repay debt)
Anyways, religions go back for thousands of years, i don't see why they couldn't exist 3000 years to the future from now ( in one form or the other ) Besides, worship of heavenly bodies goes way back, like romans did see Venus,Vulcan,Jupiter,etc. as deities (likely as an allegory) Even weekdays has Saturnday,Sunday,Moonday.
Anyways, religions go back for thousands of years, i don't see why they couldn't exist 3000 years to the future from now ( in one form or the other ) Besides, worship of heavenly bodies goes way back, like romans did see Venus,Vulcan,Jupiter,etc. as deities (likely as an allegory) Even weekdays has Saturnday,Sunday,Moonday.
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