This will probably be my final weekend with this game.

I really cannot understand the mentality of nothing more to do in game...

I suspect that it's not that there's "nothing more to do in game", more that there's nothing remotely rewarding to do in game as there is no immersion, or the promised richness in the game. It's very difficult to like or grow an attachment to something when it's meaningless and static, or when something does change, the change is also meaningless.

I'm really hoping that 1.3 adds even some richness and immersion to ED but with no roadmap it's anybody's guess.
 
I suspect that it's not that there's "nothing more to do in game", more that there's nothing remotely rewarding to do in game as there is no immersion, or the promised richness in the game. It's very difficult to like or grow an attachment to something when it's meaningless and static, or when something does change, the change is also meaningless.

I'm really hoping that 1.3 adds even some richness and immersion to ED but with no roadmap it's anybody's guess.
Have you tried Wings? Pretty immersive taking on bounties while using strategies in a team. Like being in Star Wars
 
Never pressure youself into liking a game. It is bad for your health. There are thousands of games out there and more is in development and in beta. There should be a game that is right for you. ;)
 
Over fifty, slightly moth eaten old wrinkly. My Elite game time is probably two hours a week, so I am never going to compete with the real players. I kind of adjusted to that and decided to work out what my game style would be.

In prem beta I traded - I rapidly came to the conclusion that turning a profit was too easy, it was going to be a grind.

Since beta I have been a bounty hunter. It doesn't make the profits of trading and there is no chance of making the bigger ships any time soon. I currently have a million credits and my Sidewinder. I figure it will take 10 years to think about getting an Anaconda. I am also focused on increasing my combat ranking.

I might be poor and in a basic ship, but I have found my little niche and I am having great fun chasing down wanted targets at my own pace.

I am rambling I guess, but I think if you don't have the game time you have to find a way to play that you can enjoy and accept that the higher echelons of ships will be a life times work. This is one of the few games I have found that allows me to play at my pace without losing the thread of where I am.
 
Lol, 30 isnt old. I am 65, I still enjoy computer games and always will. I have a full time job still, so play when I can, usually in the evenings with a glass of red. The answer is variety. I cant afford the Pythons or Anacondas but I still have fun. Spend a week trading, then do a bit of bounty hunting, then go exploring for a couple fo weeks. Having your name as first discovered is strangely satisfying.
As I have often said, its all about the journey not the destination.
 
Join a group. I felt burn out coming, warded it off by having people to talk to on teamspeak and sort of organize. The recent contretemp between The Code and allcomers in Lave as also revitalized the game also.
 
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30 is old? Whaaaat?

I'm 45 and did a stint at bounty hunting, which funded my Cobra then my Asp. Physical age has nothing to do with this - it's how you play the game and your attitude towards it that counts.

You keep thinking 30 yo is ancient, son, and you'll get what you wish for ;)
 
KazumaKat, personally I do empathize with you. On one hand I find the game beautiful. On the other hand it gets tedious very quickly. And...with this new update and heat damage changes I had an unfortunate experience tonight when coming out of FSD too near a neutron star, being trapped by its gravitational field (even though I IMMEDIATELY banked away upon exiting FSD) and losing fully 8/10 of my cargo from heat damage cargo door ejections. I simply couldn't escape from it for a good five minutes. Roughly 500k credits down the drain and an hour of effort gone. I admit it. It made me so furious I actually laughed. LOL For me...that is IRATE. This in addition to what *seems* to be a change in the number of rares available for purchase most of the time now. I understand the definition of "rare", thank you. This, however, now borders on near extinction and is starting to make running rares not worth the effort. This part may just be my misfortune and no change in the availability rate made. If so I will happily admit it, but I don't think it is my imagination. Eh, anyway... I'll get poo poo'ed by some, but I just wanted to tell you that I utterly empathize with you.
 
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I suspect that it's not that there's "nothing more to do in game", more that there's nothing remotely rewarding to do in game as there is no immersion, or the promised richness in the game. It's very difficult to like or grow an attachment to something when it's meaningless and static, or when something does change, the change is also meaningless.

You're just wrong on so many levels. This game is immersive. Your brain must not be functioning properly if you don't find this game immersive. And there is loads to do if you stop being passive about it. There's a crazy Welshman out there flipping a system in the name of an ancient Celtic god. Lave has collapsed into chaos as a psychotic anti-pirate group descended on the system. Both recent Federation and Imperial community events were amazing. Because people are using the props they have been given to make something amazing.


This game is a blank canvas which allows you to paint the story you want onto it. All the pieces are there to create your own meaning. Elite was and is never about being spoon-fed. If you want a game which spoon feeds you (and it sounds like you do) go pick up some triple A title from EA or Activision.
 
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KazumaKat, in my opinion, as soon as someone starts thinking of the game as credits-per-hour, then it becomes a grind and isn't fun anymore.

Sounds like you need a break, so take one. No harm, no foul. Then come back just to have fun.

+1 to this. If it ain't fun for you step back and try something that puts the smile back.
 

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+1 to this. If it ain't fun for you step back and try something that puts the smile back.

Definitely agree. This is entertainment for relaxation, you dont have to do it if its a pain. I would take a few months off and play/do other things then when you come back it will be a new game. Personally I have been taking the chance to play Wings Over Flanders Fields which is a fantastic flight sim. But there are also some great upcoming games on Steam like Subnautica to try. Just dont keep playing theg ame to death. I must admit I have done half of what you have done with the game Ive only tried trading, a spot of bounty hunting, and some smuggling. So dont feel bad you have no doubt got your moneys worth time to try something else for a while. OR take a few months out to read some of the Elite literature as a lot of it is pretty good!
 
KazumaKat, in my opinion, as soon as someone starts thinking of the game as credits-per-hour, then it becomes a grind and isn't fun anymore.

Sounds like you need a break, so take one. No harm, no foul. Then come back just to have fun.

I agree. Elite Dangerous is just a game, and when any game is interfering in your life in a negative way, just take a break from it. The upside may well be you will have some new less expensive ships to aim for when you do come back :)
 
You're just wrong on so many levels. This game is immersive. Your brain must not be functioning properly if you don't find this game immersive. And there is loads to do if you stop being passive about it. There's a crazy Welshman out there flipping a system in the name of an ancient Celtic god. Lave has collapsed into chaos as a psychotic anti-pirate group descended on the system. Both recent Federation and Imperial community events were amazing. Because people are using the props they have been given to make something amazing.


This game is a blank canvas which allows you to paint the story you want onto it. All the pieces are there to create your own meaning. Elite was and is never about being spoon-fed. If you want a game which spoon feeds you (and it sounds like you do) go pick up some triple A title from EA or Activision.

Sorry, no. ED is a beautiful flight simulator, but it's a sand box without any sand. There are no "pieces" to create anything with because everything is static, lamely randomised or meaningless. Whoopie doo, it's possible to change the influence ratio of factions in a station or system... but what does this actually mean? Nothing. It's just the same old place with nothing changed. The missions are just randomised instances with no persistence, sure you can change your relationship with a faction but what does then mean? Nothing at all other than a different colour on the scanner and a marginally different greeting when docking.

I don't expect to walk down a road and imagine that there are buildings either side, that there are people doing meaningful things that I may pass, that there may be cars driven with a purpose other than some horrible pastiche of The Truman Show. Likewise when ED is promised as a rich, immersive game I don't have to expect to imagine a bussling and active starport where instead random ships are generated on my arrive that do nothing and always start at their start point, meaningless missions that are randomly generated and always for the same set of limited locations and yet ship activity reports show that a single ship has visited the system in the last 24 hours - mine... despite all the instanced tatt ships, the stupid interdictions, the USS nonsense events which don't add up to any system activity somehow.

OK, so there are some "war" type community events but these are still just staged props. There is no galactic war, no fights over systems, no dynamic campaigns. It's just "turn up at this arbitrary point in a system, some ships will appear from nowhere and start to fight when you arrive and we'll have a score of who does what and more waves will arrive to help keep the score". Never any debris though. A damn system in space conflict should have duelling ships zipping all around the place, more ships being seen en-route from naval dockyards (want to intercept them to really help?), debris fields where combat becomes even more tactical and as for lame sitting duck battleships that have effectively zero offensive or defensive capabilities.... erm... no. Battleships should require complete coordination among many Wings of intercepting ships, most of which should be shot out of the sky before they barely get within weapons range themselves, targetting defensive batteries would then the priority allowing attackers a little safer route into doing damage to the ship itself. But no, just a lame "shoot these meaningless thermal capacitors until they're all gone and then the ship will retreat".

It's not that I don't like the game and want it to succeed, I love it and want it to succeed but it needs to become the rich, immersive game that was promised. Repeatedly. All through beta. The game has always been targetted such that we are a single cog, the universe doesn't revolve around us and players can't take over stations, systems or build empires. It's just that there's nothing to attach the cog to.
 
"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing" Screw this 30 years crap!

The game is only about grinding if you make it that way!

Don't look at the big numbers, play for fun an eventually you'll get to the bigger ships, but here's the thing, if you don't enjoy the game with the smaller ships you will not enjoy with the bigger ones. So just do whatever you feel like doing in the game, play for fun! And if you want a teammate to take some Elite Condas down, count me in, I'm flying a Vulture now ;)


Also, you should take a look at RES now, lots of Anacondas with 70K+ bounties flying around, Bounty-Hunting got a big boost in 1.2.

Absolutely correct.
I'm 66 and have been playing computer games since the C64 and will carry on playing as long as possible.
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Your right in saying if you don't have fun in ships like the Viper, the bigger ships definitely wont make you happy, try taking a T9 out worth 100 million including upgrades and 4.5 million of cargo and then get shot up by some psychopathic gamer in a Viper! Now that is stressful.
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But all part of the game and they say traders have it easy.
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So you like the Viper? Okay.. Then why not simply keep that ship? Theres nothing forcing you to buy a bigger ship, I've been flying a Cobra Mk III for about 9-10 months and I don't feel the need to buy another ship.

Just stick to the Viper you like and have fun.
 
Over fifty, slightly moth eaten old wrinkly. My Elite game time is probably two hours a week, so I am never going to compete with the real players. I kind of adjusted to that and decided to work out what my game style would be.

In prem beta I traded - I rapidly came to the conclusion that turning a profit was too easy, it was going to be a grind.

Since beta I have been a bounty hunter. It doesn't make the profits of trading and there is no chance of making the bigger ships any time soon. I currently have a million credits and my Sidewinder. I figure it will take 10 years to think about getting an Anaconda. I am also focused on increasing my combat ranking.

I might be poor and in a basic ship, but I have found my little niche and I am having great fun chasing down wanted targets at my own pace.

I am rambling I guess, but I think if you don't have the game time you have to find a way to play that you can enjoy and accept that the higher echelons of ships will be a life times work. This is one of the few games I have found that allows me to play at my pace without losing the thread of where I am.

Lol, 30 isnt old. I am 65, I still enjoy computer games and always will. I have a full time job still, so play when I can, usually in the evenings with a glass of red. The answer is variety. I cant afford the Pythons or Anacondas but I still have fun. Spend a week trading, then do a bit of bounty hunting, then go exploring for a couple fo weeks. Having your name as first discovered is strangely satisfying.
As I have often said, its all about the journey not the destination.

Is there a private group called ZimmerFrame?
The Wrinkly Wing?
I'm over 50 and do cycling, weight training and such like. Still over weight mind you! Like computer games too much! (And coding.) Space games, Total War, COD etc. Eclectic I think is the word.
Agree with the both of you.
I'll just add this: old is a state of mind not of age.:cool:
 
So you like the Viper? Okay.. Then why not simply keep that ship? Theres nothing forcing you to buy a bigger ship, I've been flying a Cobra Mk III for about 9-10 months and I don't feel the need to buy another ship.

Just stick to the Viper you like and have fun.

You can have great fun in a Viper, when fully kitted out it's a beast, you can take down Anaconda's with it if your careful and it's cheap to insure if you get destroyed trying.
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