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This illustrates exactly why I won't play Open anymore. CMDRs aren't animals for other players to farm. I'll stick to NPCs, at least that way I know it's not malicious. Add in cheats and Open isn't at attractive as I'd hoped.

If NPC aren't malicious, then why do they interdict you and fire their weapons?
 
I found in the recent tamnark mass pirate hunt, 1 pirate would show up and 4 or 5 of us would race to get them. I switched to solo and not only had the pirates to myself but I got 60fps instead of the 30fps in open.
 
I'm one of the Kickstarters who back E: D for the offline mode. I never wanted an Elite MMO. I have no interest in Open but I don't fear it either. It just doesn't float my boat.


Good on you for backing, I learned far too late, not that I had much spare cash then, but I would have backed it, I had to retire my > 10 year old PC & get a new one for this game.

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A perfect example of why I don't play MMOs is the person on these boards who keeps calling solo a 'a space trucker' simulator (sorry, I can't be bother to search for his/her name. It's just not important to enough). He belittles those who enjoy playing solo, just because, basically, there isn't enough traders for him to attack in Open mode. The question I ask myself is why would I want to share my gaming experience/free time with somebody like that. There's certainly no common ground between us. If I 'fear' anything, it's just that - MMOs are filled with people I have no common ground with.

Yeah "'a space trucker' simulator", "easy mode", "Carebears", "cheat mode", I really do not understand why some people can't discuss a subject with insulting the opposing person.

I am no philosopher but, if something bothers you, a lot there are only 2 real options I can see:

1) I can do something about it, I don't like it, I have the ability to change it and I will!.
2) There is nothing I can do to change it.
2)a) Continue to bang your head against the wall until you go crazy http://bullydefinitions.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/12/einstein.png.
2)b) Accept it is what it is, accept you can't change it, either try to enjoy it as much as you can or don't play it.

I would have liked the proper offline mode too, my best mate has crap BB so he would have bought ED if offline was still an option, I need to revisit that, his old laptop & BB might support ED, I can try to play my game on his PC, if it works I will buy him a copy of the game, why did I not think of that before, we last played elite when we were 12 ~ 14 lol.
 
I am no philosopher but, if something bothers you, a lot there are only 2 real options I can see:

1) I can do something about it, I don't like it, I have the ability to change it and I will!.
2) There is nothing I can do to change it.
2)a) Continue to bang your head against the wall until you go crazy http://bullydefinitions.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/12/einstein.png.
2)b) Accept it is what it is, accept you can't change it, either try to enjoy it as much as you can or don't play it.

More traditionally phrased as "Grant me the courage to change the things I can, the grace to accept the things I can't and the wisdom to know the difference"...
 
Please restrict Community Goals to Open mode only Please restrict Community Goals to Open mode only

It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers
 
It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers

I might agree with this if it weren't for the monster lag that I have experienced while doing them in Open. If they can get that under control, then sure, otherwise solo it is for me. Goes a lot faster in solo anyway, what with me not having to worry about other players trying to kill me (though it's kinda fun when you kill them, just not rewarding).
 
It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers

so u say all the others isnt community....
 
to be fair...the term "community" does kind of imply you're part of A larger community of players (at least in a group). i don't really have a dog in this fight though. i'll leave now.
 
It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers

I agree with your concern. I think it would be better to simply have two top contributors lists. Aside from friendly competition, and concerns over ease of credit generation (common to all Open/Solo debates), the Open players only benefit from Solo contributors... Rewards go up for everyone after all.
 
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It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers

I disagree. PvP is an extra dded thrill of the game, and if i don't want to fight other players for Lugh, I shouldn't have to. I like seeing the power of Lugh sway towards the CSG while happily killing NPCs in Private/Solo. Also, when everyone decides to join the federation side, and ends up in the HI CZ, I can no longer go there, and I would like to.
 
so u say all the others isnt community....

No I am not saying that but it is not right that the solo don't face the same dangers. Also if you are not in a wing and another player gets the kill on the guy you been damaging you lose the combat bond and therefore make less.. Solo and groups players are not facing anywhere near the same dangers or problems in community goals as those that play in open yet get all the same benefits and that is completely unfair and unbalanced

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Oh dear, yet another one.

There is already a open vs solo thread. Merge please.


No this is different as it specifically deals with community goals. and if the mods merge this it proves FDEV don't care about player concerns when allowing it to happen as a mod said they merge them to give them a place to die
 
It is not fair to open players that Community Goals are allowed to be done in solo/group.

Take the combat goals in Lugh for example. The open players face alot more danger in them due to the fact there are other players there. Solo/Group get the same benefits for facing half the actual danger and that should not be allowed.

It is called community goals and should be done by those in the community willing to expose themselves equally to the dangers

Fine by me if what happens in open play didn't affect solo/group. You do realize this won't happen. Because then you are forcing people to play how they don't want to. And the advertising says play how you want.....
 
Yes, because we Solo players are sooooooo cramping your style.

Get over yourself man. We have just as much right as you do to contribute. You have just as much ability to hit solo as the rest of us.

Lol the fact that he's complaining that he has to compete with other real people shows he should be in solo play. Smh
 
Yes, because we Solo players are sooooooo cramping your style.

Get over yourself man. We have just as much right as you do to contribute. You have just as much ability to hit solo as the rest of us.

not saying a word about how it cramps style but you should not get more benefit by the fact you face half the danger and we have the right to expect you to face the same dangers in the goal as we do
 
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