Way of the Exploring Fist

First off, if you don't get the reference in the title, let me assure you, it's not sexual.

Second, there are a lot of threads about exploring so it seems to have gained quite a bit in popularity. I'd be interested in how you deal with the different aspects of it. I have created quite a few routines for myself, and I'm interested whether these are the same for other explorers or if they have other means. That's why I'll be naming some stuff that'll seem obvious, maybe it isn't!

Moving about
The long haul. Plot close to 1,000 Ly, and promise to yourself you're not going to get bogged down in just any system. Only the really interesting ones I allow myself to be distracted by. As long hauling time goes on, the threshold for interesting seems to go down quite a bit. it will degrade from Earthlikes to funky looking gas giants to lava metal planets.

Taking it one step at a time. My Asp has a range of 33 Ly, so I'll look for systems in the general direction I was going which look interesting. Traveling in single hops. This works well where the stars are closely packed together.

When the stars become sparser, I'll aim for an interesting looking system, but turn economic routes on. I often have found quite bizarre configurations in docile looking systems. The economic route doesn't take that much longer since scooping is a matter of a couple of seconds.

All out vacuum hoovering. Caught myself doing this around 9,000 Lys from Sagi. The hops become 5-10 Ly. Direction isn't that much of an issue anymore. Also what I call Japanese Tourism mode (pardon the generalization). After a week of this and finding I'm still 7,500 Ly away, I forced myself into motion again today.

Deciding what's scan worthy
Barring the obvious: there's an Earthlike or a black hole or a neutron star and such.

For some reason I like Metal content planets. They're colourfull and usually close together. Not too interested white or brown gas giants, but will go after the disco ball giants. It's also very spur of the moment. I might pass a system by, but scan a similar system the next day.

Level of OCD
Or what distance will you travel? Anything under 100,000 Ls distance is not a factor. If it's over 300,000 ls I'll scan it if there's good stuff there, or when the rest of the system is nice, and I want to have a full system scan. Over 500,000 Ls I better see some promising Earth likes.

Fuel scoop operating temperature
Around 60-65%, allowed to stray towards the 70's, over 70 I'll increase my distance

Fuel scoop travel procedure
With a route set: Align the route pointer vertically above me, and fly with the star-on-a-stick beneath me using the stick on the radar to position myself exactly above it. When scooping is done, align with vector, wait for the temps to drop into the 50's and make it so.

Cheese!
As I said, I like the look of metally planets. If they have an atmosphere even better. Simple is beautiful. I check em all out, and many end up bmping my Hd. I'm not too big a fan of rings from a distance, but up close these are amazing. Of course every Earthlike and Ammonia world gets a place in the picture book.

Stuff I forgot to mention
I chapterized this post, but just to put some order into the chaos that is my thinking, not to set a precedent for the thread. Share any routine however mundane you may think it is.

Looking forward to reading your methodology and how it differs from mine. :)
 
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Fist-by-fist exploration protocol. I approve. And also remember the game back in the C64 days. :)
 
I was more of an IK+ type.

As for traveling, I just point straight at the primary, scan & scoop then turn and fire up the FSD. While the FSD spools I check the system scan for pretty things (mostly photo ops as above rather than lucre), cancel jump for pretties, otherwise Tea Earl Grey Hot!
 
Every ship I own is fitted for exploring with big fuel scoop, dss and major disco horn.
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Oh, and also for combat. And speed. So their jump ranges tend to suffer. Consequently I move in smaller jumps than most.

I get very antsy the further I go from civilisation, so I don't tend to make long trips. Furthest out I've been is ten thousand from Sol, but I usually stay around about a thousand or less.

I'm a lazy cherry-picker* so I use my Hab-Zone Calculator to think for me and tell me what to scan. I'm glad some of you are OCD types, because a) it's good that everything gets scanned and b) it slows you down while I flit around like a giddy mayfly stealing all the good stuff.

Ahem. Er, well, not really, I don't care so much for the money anymore now that I'm Elite explorer and don't need it to climb the greasy pole. Also I usually can't be bothered to fly any great distance in-system, I rarely travel more than ten aus unless there's something blatantly cool around.

A consequence of relying on the Calculator is that I tend to fly only between single-star systems because I haven't got it working properly in multi-star systems yet.

I tend to set the galaxy map to show KGFABO and manually set course one system at a time. I top up the tank when it drops to about two jumps remaining.


*for certain values of lazy. ;)
 
That is one nice looking boat. (was the position of the window flare intentional? I'm nicking that idea you see :) )

Thanks all for the feedback. Nice to read differing ways :)
 
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Now that is a game I haven't thought of for a long, long time!

I am fairly random on how much I scan - often I'll only scan worlds that look wet, ammonia or Earth-like, other times I'll decide to bag and tag a system for a break in the FSD-scoop routine. I always scan everything if I find an Earth-like.

My process is to sound the horn, scan the main star and slowly start scooping at the same time, then open the system map while the tank tops up. I tend to keep the fuel tank full. When travelling I tend to plot 1k LY routes, regularly checking that I have scoopable stars and re-plotting if required. Once 'somewhere' I tend to pick individual stars at random.
 
TL: DR - Brand new explorer and loving it. Thanks Ziggy for the post!


Just lost my exploring virginity on Tuesday. Finally burned out on the Lugh event, so I decided I'd take a break and go look at stars. Figured since I was a total noob at this, I would use a Cobra. Stripped her down, loaded up with A-spec'd FSD, and picked a point "West" of Lugh. I meandered about 500ly and kept seeing this fuzzy spot at one end of the Milky Way band. Galaxy map wasn't helping much. I would literally look in open space - ok, Megallanic clouds to my left, and Elephant Trunk nebula to the right and fuzzy spot directly ahead. I'd then go into the Galaxy map and try to line up my field of view to mirror what I saw in open space.

Frak it... just keep flying in that direction. I made it to the Iris Nebula and spent some time working around the cloud, visiting stars along the way. The first time I jumped in to a system on the edge of the nebula, I was disappointed. Just a dim, fuzzy white cloud. Then, the brilliance of the design was made clear. It's the ' starshine! Flying away from the star, the white cloud got brighter. Finally, it popped into full color and brightness! Nice job, EDevs!

About this time, the last Lugh event completed. I need to get back to collect my reward. I turned the bird and started heading back.

For about a dozen jumps. Suddenly, a little purple nebula appeared in my window. I have to check that out first, and then head back. LBN 623 was awesome in its purple hues. Now, how do I get outside my ship and take a picture? (told you I was a noob) A quick review of the forums and I'm in business. I'll start heading back now.

I ran into a bunch of brown dwarfs and other unscoopables. Oh, you can search by star type. No longer worried about running out of gas, I see these things called non-sequence stars and white dwarfs. Click the checkbox - Check/uncheck/check/uncheck. Let's go find some of those. Finally, I got enough will power to go collect my reward at Lugh.

Traded in the Cobra and bought an Asp, and ready for another journey!!


Exploring approach:
Arrive at system - scroll mouse wheel to zero and point at star (mouse+kb user)
Announce my arrival by blasting the horn. If I need fuel, I will slowly approach the star until the fuel gauge kicks in. While my scoop max fills at 140, I parked it around 100, which kept me around 60%-62% heat
Click my target button to scan the star in front of me and switch to system view to see the goodies
Investigate any water or Earth-looking planets. I have a fondness for rings, so if they weren't too far out (<5000ls), I'd scan 'em. Scan the binary/triple stars if they were close. Would sometimes venture out if the system looked promising (furthest jaunt 240k ls)
Finish the system explore, click the button for "next system" and jump.


Looking forward to this venture to the darkness. Since there's no pressing matter to get home, I might be out awhile. I did see a bunch of Ziggy's claims on the systems I visited. Hope to put a few up myself. Safe travels, explorers!
 
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Nice thread Ziggy!

This is what I do when exploring:

Route Planning

-On galaxy map, search the destination star. Move the view so current position and destination are aligned. I do this from destination point of view. Then I click on current. It will zoom to my current position on a straight line. Then I start to zoom back out, moving on the "line of view". I select a star that is about 1,000 ly away. Choose as destination on fast mode. Write down the name of such Major Waypoint! (MW in my notes)

-I go back to current position. Filter view options for A,F,G,K and all rare things. Then I start to review the plotted course, paying attention to highlighted stars that might be close or around the course. If I find one that is not included, I write down the name. This will be an eventual Minor Waypoint. (mw in my notes).

-I keep doing that for the whole stretch. At the end, I have a list of mw topped with a MW written down in my notebook. My real route is from mw to mw to end up in the MW. Because more often than not those are scoopable, I worry little about fuel but still will scoop when I can, normally not beyond 60% of my tank, as it gives me a longer jump range than having it full.


In system scanning:

- Initial scanner reveals anything assembling: an Earth Like Planet, a water world, a terraformable, an ammonia world, a water giant, then I go for the kill. Jovians with Rings, it depends. If only one and far away, forget it. If many and close, I'm game. If many and far, depends on mood.

-Also a combination of all above and general system layout. An all metal planets, I love! Just like you, I think they are rather colorful and, many a times, they are terraformable. Pay out? 10-15k a pop. Not bad at all!

-Those systems where you have everything, even if not life at all, are also good to explore. Numerous astronomiucal objects, 40 and more, make up for nice systems that pay out well. Love them!
-My golden treatment for Earth Like Planets: I MUST scan the whole system! That's why, if I see a suspect in initial scan, I head over there first. If positive, then I scan everything else. (Tip: one time, I found a suspect in a secondary star, like 200k ls away. I went there, leaving the primary and its few metals and giants, unscanned. Once I confirmed, I scanned all that side of the system. Then jumped out and back in to the main star to avoid going the 200k ls back)

-Any major discovery like above mentioned, I write down next to the wp. So WW - for water world, ELP - earth like planet, GA - Giant Amonia, Am - Amonia, GW - Giant with water based life, NN - Neutron, BH- Black hole, etc.

-If nothing interesting, just ice or pebbles, then I skip and mark with x in my log.


Making Sense Of Important Data

When back and done, I end up with a list of systems, that I then transcribe to an excel sheet, but only those with notes. Name, Distance from Sol, Number of Stars, Class, Number of Metal, Jovians, Worlds, Giants and Moons. Notes and Payout -if II get it when selling!

Or I simply do the first 20 and procrastinate the other 120 that i made notes for..like in my last exploration...LOL...:p
 
Interesting to hear your technique, there are things that I had not thought of in your descriptions. This is how I explore:

Route Planning

Use EDDS to switch to Monitor, and think about where I would like to go. So far I have been thinking in ways of directions, rather than interesting targets. My previous target on this trip was the highest up (relative to the galactic plane) system I was able to calculate a route to. However, I just a couple of days ago noticed there is a HD -catalogued system with a neutron star within 1000ly of my current location, so I decided to go visit that one. I have not seen a neutron star yet...

I write down the name of the target system (the shorter the better, so I prefer catalogue stars over random names), as I switch to Oculus Rift when actually start the exploring, and need to awkwardly type the name of the system when start playing.

I always use economic route, just in case there happens to something interesting on the way.

Travel

Select the next system along my route, check that temps are below 45%, give a Voice Attack command "Jump", and as soon as the countdown starts, set throttle to zero.

Upon arriving, select the main star (so the surface scanner begins it's work), honk the horn, and as soon as it finishes, if there are new objects discovered, launch system map, to see if this system has been discovered before and if there are interesting planets.

By the time I return from the system map, the surface scan has usually finished. If it is a scoopable star, get close enough to start fuel scooping, keep the temp at around 60%. Check the left panel and if there were other types of planes besides icy ones, start selecting targets from the closest one. Skip asteroid belts. If the closest non-icy planet is within 180 degrees of the star, turn that way, increase speed to increase the fuel scooping speed, keep temp below 70%. Sometimes the closest planet/star is within surface scan range of the star, most often not.

When fuel scooping is done, full speed towards the closest non-icy planet. Then keep zig-zagging in the system running from closest planet to the next closest (this often means swooshing beside the main star to go to the planet on the other side of the system. This is something I really enjoy in OR DK2!). If a companion star or planet is over 50.000ls away, I decide whether scanning it is really worthwhile, every non-icy planet closer than that I always scan. Moons of gas planet I usually do not scan, unless I happen to pass by really close of one on my way to another planet.


After I reach my current neutron start target, I may start looking for black holes and other interesting targets, instead of simply going to directions. Have not decided yet. :)

Plan to head home as soon as I either find an earthlike planet, or get to visit both a neutron star and a black hole.

I seem to progres only about 100ly per day of playing, but I am in no hurry.
 
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Mmm. Mundane!

Well, I consider myself a tourist rather an explorer, but I picked up some habits on the way Sagittarius A* so here comes. Warning; some stupid decisions ahead!

Picking a 'target':

My final destination was Sgr A* but with some 26k LY of black in between so, roll out the galaxy map -- the Asp looks like one of these "Marry me Jane" banner Cessnas from afar -- and let's have a look shall we. What I tend to pick up are the most usual suspects, the nebulae. I then flip over to realistic view and see what catches my eye. Star giants and funky disco colours is what I'm after. Triangulate a route and I'm off.

Long hauling and fuel policy:

Plot next to 1,000 LY fastest, check where I end up with second to empty tank, if scoopable, hit it hard. If not, remember the nearest scoopable, hit it hard. Hyperjump in, ping the ADS. I never zero throttle when in long haul mode -- it's not like it's going to save you from a close binary anyway. The only real danger I find are neutrons and T-tauris and those are rare indeed. Not completely impossible to easily handle either.

I never bother topping up fuel as I only brought a 3A scoop (yeah, I know, ouch!) and there's no point. I tested topping up at full throttle roof-to-star Evel Knievel style, but with that, I went from 1,000 LY per hour to some 600 LY per hour. Not good. Risky, too.

If (when) the tank is drained, face the star, heat up to somewhere around 75%, zero throttle, scan an scoop. Plot next 1,000 LY if end of route. Check system map while FSD charges, next!

Scanning:

Abort FSD charge after exiting system map if any of the following happens to crop up. 1) Rare star, 2) Earth-like or water world, 3) Some of those black and hot metal-rich (yeah, I like them too, a lot!), 4) Gas giants, funky looking or just many of them, or finally, 5) A floating Irish pub.

I zero-throttle then and check system layout versus the left-hand nav panel. My points of reference are usually moons. With the fact the star is still the closest to me (check long hauling for why), I can almost always pin-point the target scan and photo set. I am a sucker for gas giants and metal-rich. They're quite a sight usually.

Unless there are signs of a wild Thargoid drinking spree going on there, I never bother super-cruising over 400,000 LY and I need quite an incentive in the less trippy department to fly over 100,000.

Flashing the DSLR:

I find the 'camera' controls absolutely terrible and maybe 1 in a 50 shots looks like something I'd consider a 'photograph' and not mindlessly boot it from the album. What I would like to see here is the virtual DLSR from Gran Turismo games but I'm not sure that's even possible in a game like this. So I'm just going to shut up about it.

I'll edit in whatever more I can think of. Also, it's you who asked for mundane! :p Have rep, Major Tom.
 
My approach ...

I tend to zone out and just follow my nose :) .. I use the map filters to try to find something different or rarer and head in the general direction. Sometimes I stop and explore an entire 'boring' system and other times let ones filled with giants go. I keep telling myself I am in no rush, although its probably working against me only 8k ly out and maybe 3 weeks plus into my journey lol

I am paranoid a bit though and refuel almost every stop (or every couple or so) so I never forget about it and once I find a group of interesting systems I tend to hover around the area for a while.

Also started to avoid few of the smaller nebulas since they seem to be the only areas already explored .. atleast from my experience in the last week or two. They look pretty though so only visit for the screenies now lol.

I thought I would be sick of it by now but still loving the lay back nature of it all .. so on to Sag A* I go!
 
I've only done one exploration trip, out to only about 1,200 in a Cobra and before we got the selfie-cam, but I'm about to trade in a Type 6 for an Asp and once I can fit it with a top-notch fuel scoop and some AFMs I'll be off on a "proper" explorer run.

My main problem is going to be overcoming my borderline OCD; during the Cobra run I discovered I can really only scan systems in one of three ways:

  • Advanced scanner only
    When I'm in a real rush and only stop for a partial scoop, count the astronomical objects, realign and jump.​

  • Primary star only
    When I've got time to (or have to) do a full scoop. Scan the primary star, look at the planets for anything potentially interesting and then, depending on what's there, either jump on without scanning anything else or...​

  • Scan everything else
    This is my downfall. I can't just fly to the Earth-likes and other interesting bits, scan those and move on. It has to be just the star, or everything else in the system as well including those ridiculous 20-minute-away outliers that inevitably turn out to be lumps of ice. I just can't bring myself to leave anything unexplored once I've started. It's a massive, massive time-sink.​
I even continued to scan some asteroid belts long after finding out that they don't pay anything or show discovery tags. I did manage to talk myself out of that behaviour (it takes ages to scan all those sodding rocks) but now I fear that if FD ever fix the code to put cash values or tags on belts, I'll find myself looking at those systems in which I left the rocks alone and planning multi-thousand light-year trips just to "fill in the blanks".

Does anyone else get obsessed over achieving a "full house" in scanned systems, even when they're mostly rocks and ice, or is it just me?
 
I tend to honk the horn as soon as I arrive , target the main star and scan , soon as I hit 60% heat I stop and examine the system map.

Genrally I only scan those 'red' interesting looking metal worlds , any earth like or water worlds.

My original idea was to head towards Sag A in a direct line , but as time has gone on , I've found myself looking and going....'oh shiny!' and I've sort of got distracted 'a little' , I think I worked it out that I've done about 55,000 ly , and only moved about 9,000 ly towards Sag A

I will get there 'eventually'
 
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Does anyone else get obsessed over achieving a "full house" in scanned systems, even when they're mostly rocks and ice, or is it just me?
Only if there are no discovered tags in the bodies. Well, sometimes I scan everything just for the heck of it, but lately I've eased off a bit from the total OCD mode. :)
 
Route Planning: Single star at the moment, as I want to concentrate on F,G and K's. the route planner always sends me on Y, T and L's. Tend to jump max range unless there is a potential sweety on the way.
System scanning: Blue's and metals, interesting gas if close, and black holes if in system.
OCD: Always top up, hyper to new system, during countdown always zero speed. New system, scan star whil looking at system.
 
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