Ships Lakon Diamondback, how much will it cost?
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We really don't need any more super expensive ships. There's far too many of them as it stands. Hoping its around 1mn or less.
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Price differences aren't a linear relationship though. If you look at it by proportion, Type-6 to Asp is a larger gap (>6x cost) compared with 7 -> 9 (just over 4x the cost), albeit you can subsidise the cheaper ones with bounty hunting now when you couldn't really prior to 1.2.
As it isn't a freighter (we guess), it can fit into anywhere along the scale though. From the size of it, I doubt we are seeing anything T-7 or T-9 size; we may get around T-7 in cost if the capabilities are good, unless the picture and size you can infer from it is really misleading.
Then again, I was wrong about the Fer de Lance from guessing the size from the canopy. The Vulture ended up morel like what I imagined the Fer de Lance to be before (it is the size I guessed the FdL was), so I could be wrong.
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I feel like most ships named after snakes are multi roles or combat ships. So I think this will have a buttload of cargo AND hardpoints, but will be fairly slow with a lower than average FSD. It's going to be a tank no doubt, and I feel this will be the perfect ship for mining.
My guess is somewhere between 35 and 45 million.
My guess is somewhere between 35 and 45 million.
Thing is, we see the expense for the Fer deLance because it's luxurious (and has the huge gun hardpoint), Vulture because it's high-tech, and Clipper, Python and Anaconda because they're just plain huge (and luxurious as well, the latter compared to lower end Faulcon deLacy ships). Is the Diamondback going to be any of those things?
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I like the suggestion that it's a miner. As said high intensity RES with high risk high reward perhaps it's gonna have the biggest shields and strongest hull (diamond back) to enable it to take punishment while waiting for drones to return. It will be real slow though to balance it.
Nothing. It's an artificial construct that can be used to make the ship more expensive. In-universe, it could be about the craftsmanship and quality of the components (FdL has leather interiors in the cabin).
Yes, the Clipper looks like a good deal (or it is aggressively costed), but you also have things like the Fer de Lance, where prestige seems to be the main factor of having the price high.
Of course, there's also tax...
The FDL is not overpriced. It is about python cost, slightly edges out the python in combat, and is very fast and can masslock very well. The tradeoff is it has much lower cargo and has component/power/jump range issues. If you want to murder players (rather than pirate them, for which the python works better), or overtake and kill large NPC ships, it is the best ship in the game for that task. It can engage and disengage at will, kill anything it can catch, and run away from anything it can't kill.
Interestingly, I think the vulture is not too cheap. It is in the asp price range, but can only fight well. It's not very fast and has power issues. The asp is a reasonable fighter, but can trade well, is the best reasonably priced explorer, and has amazing jump range. If anything asp is what's too cheap
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InMemoriamSirocco
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Please let it be multipurpose.
Hm, I think I described a mini-Python or a maxi-Cobra.
In my opinion the FDL isn't the fighter counterpart of the Python (3 large and 2 medium vs. 4 medium and 1 huge hard point), the trade counterpart for the Python is the T-7 (almost the same cargo space). I would like to see the combat counterpart of a Python with the firepower of a Python and not just enough firepower to beat a Python, I hoped that the Diamondback could be that ship, but I guess it's not since I don't think Lakon will make such a combat ship.
The T-9 is the trade counterpart of the Anaconda. Both are huge ships, both can roughly (very roughly) carry around the same amount of cargo.
That's why I think the Diamondback will be a mini-Python or a multipurpose FDL-counterpart. Maybe around half the cargo of a Python, just 4 medium and 1 large hard point (and not 3 large and 2 medium). Price somewhere in the middle between Asp and Python. Something between 30-40 mil cr sound right for me.
What ever it will be, we will know for sure after the release of 1.3.
Hopefully enough that it includes an interior that doesn't look like a bookshelf.
My thoughts are it will be;
Role - Multi, an armed trader similar to Dropship. To fit into the new mining role.
Size - between Type 6 and Asp
Cost - between Type 6 and Asp, around say 4 million.
Cargo - around 150tons
Jump range - Not better than Asp, but as good as Type 6.
Weapons - 2 med, 2 small hardpoints. Placed so you can fit a mining laser to either small or med, and the others placed good for turreted use. To protect whilst mining.
Module loadout - Smaller number of larger compartments. To limit the overall capability, but make it a useful mining or trade vessel, so 2 x size 6, 2x size 5, and a size 2.
This ship has to fill the gap, and create a new role for itself in the Type 6 - Asp gap.
Role - Multi, an armed trader similar to Dropship. To fit into the new mining role.
Size - between Type 6 and Asp
Cost - between Type 6 and Asp, around say 4 million.
Cargo - around 150tons
Jump range - Not better than Asp, but as good as Type 6.
Weapons - 2 med, 2 small hardpoints. Placed so you can fit a mining laser to either small or med, and the others placed good for turreted use. To protect whilst mining.
Module loadout - Smaller number of larger compartments. To limit the overall capability, but make it a useful mining or trade vessel, so 2 x size 6, 2x size 5, and a size 2.
This ship has to fill the gap, and create a new role for itself in the Type 6 - Asp gap.
You just want to hoist the black flag in it!