2nd GTX 980

Is the 2nd card worth it? Do you experience the latency issues with SLI 980 that I keep reading about? I am really tempted to add the 2nd now that these are going for 527 dollars but want to make sure there is a definite benefit to the purchase. Not worried about the future will sell them when the time comes to upgrade. Thoughts? :)
 
Got to be worth it imo, although I'm running 2x 970's i don't experience any latency issues and hopefully as time progresses and those VR drivers become available and supported it surely can only be a positive move.

It's also worth it for Nvidia & AMD to get this right as when the consumer headsets are finally launched and if it takes off in a huge way, I think it will only encourage more people to expand into SLI or Crossfire systems with greater sales for the graphic card manufacturers
 
I recently did a massive upgrade on my PC, which included 2 Asus factory OC 970GTX cards. I have yet to see the frame rate in ED drop below 45fps.

45fps I hope that's a fat finger mistake Hell Razor unless your running some crazy super sampling but 45 is extremely bad for rift users
 
I doubt if you'll get the bang for the buck you want.

I'm pretty convinced that bandwidth is more important than graphics power, unless you are talking Rift.

I have a Core i7-950 with 24gb ram, 1 TB SSD, and a GTX770 - powering 3 24" 1920X1200 monitors without any graphics issues.

So I get smooth performance w/o any stuttering at 5760X1200 with everything set on the highest settings.

Oh yeah, 65/65 Mbps FIOS line.

I'd ask 777Driver - he's been running a Rift for a long time.
 
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To clarify I can run the game in 1080p full settings (1.5 SS) on my monitor. It's only when i use the rift that the lower settings are required. I'll post system specs soon.
 
Gigabyte z97x-ud5h mobo
MSI R9 280 OC GPU
Corsair vengeance series case
G Skill Ares series 8 GB (2x4)
I-5 4670k Haswel
Samsung 840 Evo
Antec 650 watt gold Power ( dont remember model)

Game never seems to bring the cpu up over 80 percent. So I'm pretty sure its the GPU that is overtaxed.

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Also using a CH pro throttle and thrustmaster 16000m for added immersion!

Was also wondering if adding a 2nd r9 280 would give me better results in the rift. Anyone running this setup?
 
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45fps I hope that's a fat finger mistake Hell Razor unless your running some crazy super sampling but 45 is extremely bad for rift users

That is during the FSD jump. My monitor also only can manage 60fps, so I have yet to see what the cards can do really re FPS.
 
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That is during the FSD jump. My monitor also only can manage 60fps, so I have yet to see what the cards can do really re FPS.

45fps? That should really be unplayable in the DK2. I cannot stand if mine dips below 65. Did you try lowering your resolution on your monitor when you are going to use the rift? Drop it down go into Windows display and set it to 75hz at lower res. This has worked for some people with monitors that only do 60hz. I have my single 980 running pretty good thanks to all the great advice throughout this forum. I realize I am not going to see an increase in graphics clarity as I have that about as high as I am going to get it now I am looking to smooth it out now get rid of the glitches, stalls, etc. Does the 2nd card help this and thank you guys for your responses.
 
There is a trick that you might want to look at to help stop the PC from slowing down. Fit a separate HDD for the Swap File (make sure it is at least twice the size of the maximum amount of RAM your PC can handle). Then tell Windows about it (different versions of Windows manage access to it differently, but it is normally through Device Manager, Advanced settings, Virtual Memory). This does not make the PC any faster, but it does help remove a major bottleneck, and could affect the graphics. I suggested this in a different post, and the person concerned tried it, and saw an improvement in the frame rate.
 
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I have two 980s in one of my rigs and the 2nd card makes a huge difference when using supersampling. If you can afford it then there's no reason not to upgrade. You will still be disappointed at certain times... (Res areas mostly) but my tests have shown this issue is network related and nothing to do with my setup.

Playing this game on max settings with ingame SS x 1.5 takes ED and the DK2 to a whole new level. I can't wait now for alternate eye SLI rendering!
 
I have two 980s in one of my rigs and the 2nd card makes a huge difference when using supersampling. If you can afford it then there's no reason not to upgrade. You will still be disappointed at certain times... (Res areas mostly) but my tests have shown this issue is network related and nothing to do with my setup.

Playing this game on max settings with ingame SS x 1.5 takes ED and the DK2 to a whole new level. I can't wait now for alternate eye SLI rendering!

Thanks, I am probably going to give it a try and just cross my fingers that these are usable in the future. Having fun with it guess that is what matters
 
Do note that I am able to use SS x1.25 in the Rift with minimal performance impact to the point where it looks, to me, significantly better with SS on than with SS off. The framerate impact is almost unnoticeable (it seems like 5% or less, I haven't measured it). I have been able to use SS x1.5 also, but the image quality increase from SS off -> SS x1.25 is WAY WAY WAY bigger than the image quality increase from SS x1.25 -> SS x1.5. I do have noticeable performance impact with SS x1.5 (probably around a 10% frame rate decrease)

I play with the Oculus Rift, all settings low, shadows medium, bloom medium, SS x1.25. (edit: I do turn shadows off in resource extraction sites)

I am completely addicted to this game and if we know we can get a noticable performance increase from SLI I will not hesitate for a second to dump another $500 on it.
 
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a single 980 overclocked to 1500/8000 (which is simple/safe to do)
will let you play @ nvidia control panel DSR (dynamic super sampling) 1.78 and 2.0x (i could run 2x before the update, now back down to 1.78...but all good still)

in game super sampling only allows 1.5 and 2x, and i cant even handle that...

in game super sample is way better than dsr, dsr is "dynamic". in game is full hardcore higher resolution down scaled to the rift (better looking by far but taxing on even a single 980!)

so that being said, 2 gtx 980s with a minor overclock can easily do in game SS 2x and it looks amazing!

hopefully your cpu can keep up...
 
Will it make a difference? Yes, it does. I was running a single 980 and found constant stuttering in-station unless I completely eliminated supersampling. Now, with all options maxed (I turned a couple from "High" to "Ultra"- forgot which ones, sorry), I can enable 1.5x SS without having to worry about stutter- ever. Anywhere. It's completely gone.
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BUT ... bump it up to 2.0x SS and boom-it's back. Seems as though it hits a wall at 1.5. DOn't know if my CPU is bottlenecking at that point though because I'm running a 4 year old Core i5 2500k O/C'd to 4.35GHz- perhaps, just perhaps, I would stand to benefit from a CPU upgrade, but it's another $600 (for new MoBo and CPU) I don't need to spend, so I'll chance it for now.
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HOWEVER ... is it 'worth' it? The dreaded 'it depends' answer must rear its ugly head here unfortunately. I know that I could have *lived* with the judder in station and asteroid fields and in SC when confronted with a lot of celestial rotational orbit lines, but I just didn't want to. I decided that, because I had the money and loved the game enough (it's pretty much all I play now except for GTA V, which is as buggy as all hell and fury-inducing as a result at this point), I decided that it was worth it FOR ME.
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Ask yourself the following questions:
1) Do I have enough money in my bank account to pay all my bills and meet my basic financial obligations in addition to plopping down another CAD $600 on a video card as of now? If no, then stop here and don't buy. Seriously- it's not worth financial hardship. However, if yes, then proceed to 2) below;
2) Do I love this game? Think of how much time you spend on it, as a percentage of your overall gaming, because most games, a 980 will rock handily, which means this is really DK2-specific (or 4K specific, but that's a whole different ballgame). If yes, then continue. If 'eh, kinda' I guess', then stop here and stick with your current setup;
3) Can I live with somewhat reduced graphical fidelity? If so, then seriously, turning off SS and just rocking basic 1080p will be more than enough to produce consistently judder-free gaming with a 980. If you can't then ...
4) Consider whether you have the patience to wait for CV1/HTC Vive. One of these will be released this year (hopefully OR keeps their head in the game and releases in time for Christmas before they totally miss the first to market boat on this and HTC/Valve wipes the floor with them). You'll need some serious coin for upgrades then, which I anticipate to be what will (hopefully) be a 980ti or two, or a Titan X, PLUS the $250-350 for the actual HDM. If you are a patient person, with not a lotta' coin, then best to keep your powder dry for the summer at least.
 
Mag,
Appreciate your insights although I am not really in any of the categories by definition. I am a patient man with a lotta coin so will have to take some of points of view and think about them before I decide. Thanks.
 
Mag,
Appreciate your insights although I am not really in any of the categories by definition. I am a patient man with a lotta coin so will have to take some of points of view and think about them before I decide. Thanks.

Edit: This really is the only game I play now which makes spending all this money seem silly but i can't stop trying to improve it. Love the game itself great way to get lost from reality for a while although time travels fast in here I always find myself thinking wow that was 3 hrs?
 
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