So apparently this isnt hacking.

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I will wager a whole British grown onion* delivered anywhere within the bounds of the United Kingdom (excludes ROI and the Isle of Man) that your FDL can not masslock my Python


* I have only just planted my onions thus the winner will have to wait till the end of the season.

What type of onion is it? mild, cooking, white, shallot, pickling, green, salad, red or supersweet?
 
As odd as it may seem, mass has nothing to do with masslock. Each ship has an arbirtrarily chosen masslock factor and can masslock all ships with the same or lower factor.

The Python has a masslock factor of 18, the same as the Clipper (and even the Type 9) btw.
The FdL has a masslock factor of 20, so it can masslock anything except Anacondas, which have a factor of 24.

What the Python did in the video should not be possible.

That's silly if that's the case, but like I said, my 720 ton Clipper has jumped away from FDLs without being mass-locked. It'll be interesting to see for myself, for sure.
 
Thus far I've been citing personal experience. I'm willing to test this with you for scientific purposes and I'll readily admit that I'm wrong if I turn out to be. If you're after a "wager" more than confirming the truth then I can find someone else in a Fer de Lance to test with. Any volunteers?


im up for some testing
 
Well looks like FD is telling everyone its ok to be a hacker, very disappointed.

as such combats are pure P2P managed types, FD has NO way to check, if the guy edited his ship values. this vid suggests, that he edited his mass lock factor....

but sure...no hacking....

seriously?

well.....then open play is over for me....finally...
private group incoming

maybe we should create a "non cheating PVP group" ?
 
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as such combats are pure P2P managed types, FD has NO way to check, if the guy edited his ship values. this vid suggests, that he edited his mass lock factor....

but sure...no hacking....

seriously?

well.....then open play is over for me....finally...
private group incoming

maybe we should create a "non cheating PVP group" ?

Seems somewhat odd that you would let one instance bother you that much. Its not as if cheating isnt rife in every other online MP game in the history of gaming. Whilst that's not condoning it, its just a matter of fact. Its like saying you are never going to drive your car again because you once saw someone driving one you thought was stolen. Somewhat bonkers if you ask me, which you didn't!
 
Well looks like FD is telling everyone its ok to be a hacker, very disappointed.

It could have been a bug. I have seen a lot of weird things happen, which should not be possible under normal circumstances, but I think most of them were bugs, problems with network sync or whatever.

He reported it, the devs looked into it (which is good) and couldn't find any proof for a hack, so we have to accept that. The game is still so full of bugs and network-related problems, one should always be careful accusing other players of hacking. Reporting suspicious things is fine, discussing each case in the forum not so much, especially when the devs have already looked into a case and couldn't find anything.
 

Pheyes

Banned
Oh well if its a bug then maybe I should put a bug report in everytime he does it and then ask for a refund on any ships I lose fighting him?
 
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cool....moderators not obeying their own rules and redacting a normal, and legal combat video....FD stated its no hacking thus nothing to shame......
so is EVERY combat video to be redacted in future that shows names?!

really?!

<---- shakes head and moves along as it is as inconsistent mod behaviour as with their banhammer.....
they even stated they would not even if hack invovled: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=111267&page=3&p=1745119&viewfull=1#post1745119
 

ciger

Banned
i think python has been "modified" somewhat, i was being masslocked by an NPC python in my conda (no there was no other conda around, i checked). obviously i was surprised and seeing that FDL is not masslocking it in the OP's vid is either a bug or intentional buff for a python.
 
Seems somewhat odd that you would let one instance bother you that much. Its not as if cheating isnt rife in every other online MP game in the history of gaming. Whilst that's not condoning it, its just a matter of fact. Its like saying you are never going to drive your car again because you once saw someone driving one you thought was stolen. Somewhat bonkers if you ask me, which you didn't!

when i see a stolen car and i report it inkl. name of the theft to the police, i can be sure, that actions will happen!
he comes to jail (solo mode)

easy as that

and as it happened MORE than once obviously, i dont think it was a bug

so FD not doing anything and stating, they cannot see any hacking at all, is just.....meh
 
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Seems somewhat odd that you would let one instance bother you that much. Its not as if cheating isnt rife in every other online MP game in the history of gaming. Whilst that's not condoning it, its just a matter of fact. Its like saying you are never going to drive your car again because you once saw someone driving one you thought was stolen. Somewhat bonkers if you ask me, which you didn't!

Mmm, the difference is that here we're mixing P2P and PvP- which always ends in a horrible hackfest if it gets at all competitive.
 
Its another thread about masslock and its mysterious lack of relations with mass lol, this is how it works

What is your masslock number? for python/clipper/asp/T9/T7 (probably some more) this is 18, for dropship 20, FDL 22, Anaconda 24. Greater = lock, lower = no effect regardless of number of ships.

Are you within 3km? Masslock is 100% effective until 3km, at which point it has no effect.

Thats it, there is absolutely nothing else involved, 98 ships don't count, having a cargo hold full of slaves doesn't count, making your Python weigh 900t doesn't count.

oh and high energy jumps aren't subjected to masslock
 
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Quote from there:

That's not what I meant. I just mean think carefully about what you choose to post - we do still have rules protecting people's personal details in here on the forum, but we will be as lenient as possible with naming and shaming when it means it will reduce the amount of people attempting to hack the game, in turn helping it to be an enjoyable play experience for all

This said, I believe the reason for removing the video was the intend to name and shame the python in it by the OP as he appeared to be unhappy with the result of FD's investigation into the matter.
 
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