But u argue the choices other ppl do...
Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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But u argue the choices other ppl do...
I'm not locking myself in anything! I play the way I like! you don't know me, don't pretend to know how I feel or what I want! It really is none of your business.
Open is the anything goes mode! This is a fact! is it a total hell hole, probably not everywhere. But it is in certain places, you know it, and I know it. I would even go as far as encouraging everyone to try it, at least once. Heck to each there own.
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The term I like to use, is I'm a loaner. Like you I have a ton of friends. I just need my alone time on a pretty regular basis. I took up fishing, most of my friends don't like to do it, lol. But I have a few that do, but they also respect my boundaries.
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You say that you are a loner, but yet you are here on a message board, posting on average once a day for the last (almost) year. You are also a part of a PvE community that boasts over 9000 members. I'm confused...
I think the misconception is that you solo'ers believe that OPEN is all hellfire and brimstone. that the second you go outside you get griefed and rammed and messed with. This is completely untrue. I know I'm spinning my wheels, but I'm confused on why so many solo people come to the boards and defend their solo lifestyle if they want to be alone? you don't want to talk to me or see me in space, but you will talk here? there isn't any consistency.
*aimless rant over*
In combat zones player kills are purely paid out on ship type I'm pretty sure it doesn't take rating in to account. Killing a skilled player in a cobra vs a low skilled npc in a cobra pays out exactly the same yet one is intrinsically harder than the other the majority of the time.
It shouldn't all over but there should be some way of providing in game content for higher skill. A lot of players have been eating Elite anacondas for breakfast in ships as small as the viper (even after the ai tweaks in wings) and these players need more challenge. Right now the only place this can happen is through pvp in cgs but flying in a wing generally reduces the pay out (by halving bounties) so when it comes to cgs players feel like they're not rewarded for their skill. Most players would be happy with the current state of affairs if they felt they were on an equal footing but since it's easier to compete from solo or group they feel there's a problem.
You missed the point entirely.
That's what pirates do for a start and in turn we're preyed on by bounty hunters. No real pirate is going to go after a well armed anaconda even if that's what the npc pirates do. Notice where there's also communication before each encounter as well? It's never guns blazing "ha ha ha ha!" like the npcs do. That's me pirating and I'm not proud of killing the odd trader but I am proud of trying to play one of the advertised professions as honourably as possible using the only tools available to me right now.
The point in question was that those are the types of ships players are facing in trade community goals whilst in solo or group you're facing shieldless eagles for the most part yet you're rewarded the same by playing in solo in a cg and you have less risk and less chance of death or damage.
My whole point was the AI should be tweaked to be representative of how the game is played under the current meta. I'm not saying make the AI punishing everywhere but no more shieldless eagle pirates and have the pirates use the current pirate ships being used with rails and shooting out your drives. This isn't an attempt to make things too hard for solo/pve but to make things realistic. You should never get interdicted in an anaconda by a wing of sidewinder pirates with no shields and pulse lasers.
We'll always disagree on this and that's ok, we both have our own opinions.
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I'm here to discuss the Game, I really don't wanna discuss the Game ingame via the Chat Panel. Its unhandy and I also like immersion which would be totaly destroyed.
Again: That somene likes to play SP does not mean he also will outside of Games not talk to anybody. Games and actual life outside of Games are two diffrent things.
What difference does it make? I've never said open is a hell hole. I have said it is the "anything goes mode". Are you telling me your dispelling this fact?
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As for higher rewards for players doing community goals in open, this first needs somebody from FD to publish that it is more difficult in the open. I may think so and you may think so and Michael Jackson's pet monkey, Bubbles, may think so, but it's all speculation unless someone from the company thinks so... 
I'm guessing that quite a few people who come on this thread to defend Solo mode is because some players would like to have that mode removed/nerfed and if the only forum noise is Open Only, well, that might not end well for those who use the other modes.
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You don't have to understand us but you should try and respect us. At least try reading what we've written so that you can see it has nothing to with a misconception of what Open is. Some players have almost certainly gone to Solo after a bad Open experience, that's true - some of them were practically ordered there by irresponsible PvP players who don't want to moderate their own behaviour/targets. Some of us though, are not afraid of "griefers" and play Solo for entirely different, personal reasons.
You are "spinning your wheels" because you are arguing a point that most of us don't disagree with. Open is not full of griefers, no, but it does have non-consensual PvP and that is being claimed/defined as the default playstyle by those players who want Open as anything goes without any thought or responsibility to what other players might want or not want. It also has, simply, other people which some of don't want, whatever type of people they happen to be.
Also, the only reason we need to defend our "Solo lifestyle" is because people like you are trying to take it away from us. Without Solo many of us would just stop playing and that doesn't seem fair to us considering that what we want is already in the game and is something we paid for and what you want would change the game and is something we would not have paid for.
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And why we must play like you pro open players?
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then they can shoot each other and leave alone the ones that dont want to be their content in peace...
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Ok, again, sorry for the poor choice of words here.... What i mean is stay away from Leesti and the few stars surrounding if it's Code you're afraid of, though they're really not what people of making them out to be. Populated space is generally a very safe and rich place to be and Code tend to stay in their 'own' neck of the woods. The Leesti system and surrounds isn't up to much anyways to be honest...
And trust me on this too.... nobody is alone and helpless out there. It seems to me that there is still not enough dialogue going because the more people i chat to in open, the more i know it's a safe and good place to be, with support for those who want or need it and policed areas of space by those who don't care so much for their credit stash, but more for what they can give back in help and support to others.
As for higher rewards for players doing community goals in open, this first needs somebody from FD to publish that it is more difficult in the open. I may think so and you may think so and Michael Jackson's pet monkey, Bubbles, may think so, but it's all speculation unless someone from the company thinks so...
Is long history on games the whiners eventually get want they want though
No, but you did say that "" i personally couldn't care less. i'm not a trader... i do everything. so, even if i was "forced" into open, i could make my way without trading and still be "ahead" (whatever that means). what you think would make a trader take the "immensive" risks of open play to play (and enjoy) the victim role? 200% more profit? 300%? I'd guess it would be more like 500%...."" You assume the "victim" role. When if you played the "Anything goes role" It wouldn't be so scary to your kind of player. Like I've said 100 times if I've said it once. I've yet to see a single person in open mode since launch......and I've been looking. Just trying to point out that its not bad at all in open. Like the president of your era said " Motivation is the art of getting people to do what you want them to do because they want to do it." Dwight E.
Good that wasnt my president though ..i feel sorry for hes country ...
But this is precisely the reason why you play Open! You play Open because human opponents offer more of challenge. You do not play Open to get more reward for that challenge. You did not buy the game to get more reward for playing Open. You already have exactly what you paid for.
I'm sorry your so flustered there, but listen! Ya need to check your router if your not seeing anyone. There are lots of players out there, if your not seeing them you have something wrong in your setup. Don't just blow this message off, go check yer $h-t.
I really, really - REALLY - don't wanna play in Open. I'm serious, listen, I REALLY DON'T WANNA PLAY IN OPEN. Not sure if you got it, so let me say ist again: i DON'T WANNA PLAY IN OPEN! Seriously, I don't. Trust me.
It may sound silly to you, but I actually know better what I like and not then you. I know, its a hard, brutal thing to say, so maybe you should sit down, but its the truth. Hope its not too much of shock.
I see the water, but its the puddle you are trying to make me focus on. I'm trying to show you the ocean beyond that if you'd simply lift your eyes from the ground. There is a vast world out there and its not scary. Come play with us and experience a whole new world! meet friends, create wings. take over stars! You (all) can't tell me that as this game grows more, and you *should* be in a wing to help sway or capture a system (through trade, politics, war) that you'll feel left out then when you can't group with people in your solo modes?Have you considered reading the answers you got?
And the missconception is yours buddy. You have been told it's not fear of open and you respond: it's fear of open.
You've been led to the water, now drink damn you
Sure you can "click" over to open, but you'll not have the team/friends/resources to accomplish your goals.
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