Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
pay 240euros and become an alpha tester
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Are you being deliberately dense?
The point is, you don't have buy the alpha. You get just as much finished game buying the beta... or just buying the game. I agree with you that it is bad PR at this point, but that's mostly because like you, people don't seem to understand that.
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Access to Alpha stages of a (game) project is not a right.
It is a problem of perception and expectation. Just because a number of companies have provided access to an alpha version of a game at a low price point, does not mean that all companies or game projects have to do that.
Frontiers approach has found them a group of people dedicated to the game and who have been prepared to show that commitment by putting their money where their mouth is. Well done to those people, I say.
It is a problem of perception and expectation. Just because a number of companies have provided access to an alpha version of a game at a low price point, does not mean that all companies or game projects have to do that.
Frontiers approach has found them a group of people dedicated to the game and who have been prepared to show that commitment by putting their money where their mouth is. Well done to those people, I say.
You enter a topic. The man who started the topic complains about the pricing tag on the alpha (and yes, he seems to be well aware of the other available options). You tell him he has an option not to buy the alpha (or, continuing this line of reasoning, not buy anything at all), because in the end he, you, me and my dog will get the same finished game. Well, to correct you, in the end we will all die and nothing of this will matter anyway.
From where I sit, you're the one who is being dense, and considerably at that.
All the places I worked at were severely understaffed, including the multinational conglomerate company I'm working for at the moment and the huge international organisation I've worked for previously. More money means being less understaffed, which in turn means a raise in quality. That's how it works with programmers.
Alpha-testers, however, is entirely another thing, yes.
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I'd ask you to explain what this hyperbolic drivel has to do with anything, but don't bother, I won't be reading.
Calm down folks, this is just the internet...
Yes it is
My impression is that people not willing to back the game for 200 pounds aren't really interested in helping out the Devs.
Therefore it's better for the rest of us if the donation level (or price tag as people keep insisting it is) scares the general public away and y'all come back when it's done.
Maybe. There is, however, a big difference between planning a project from the start to have 2X rather than X programmers, and adding the second X programmers later when more cash is available but the project is already well underway. Brooks' The Mythical Man-Month goes into quite a lot of detail about the difference.
Certainly my experience is also that "more programmers" = "more projects completed" not "projects completed quicker".
helping the devs by feedback about the game( what is good whats bad what would be awesomw etc)..not funding the company (there are other sections about that...but if they ''really'' want testers then it would be right at least offer alpha in a lower price...its just i want so badly to try the game and feedback ;( anyway ill have to w8 till release
Honestly, I think the devs have enough feedback as is. The alpha forum is just nuts - I've stopped paying attention to most threads as it's just repeats of the same thing from everyone.
The beta price isn't so bad and will still let you get in on the feedback when the game is at a more advanced stage.
I don't think it will and yes it looks and plays rather nicely.
I agree that access to Alpha seems high compared to other software offerings but I suspect this was deliberate.
It does seem that some people feel entitled to have access to the alpha. It's a shame if such a denied sense of entitlement translates into damaging publicity for Frontier though. Maybe the best thing would be to put a "Sold Out" sign up!
It's done mate, we've both walked away. Don't stir it up again.
Well for me I had 4 options 1) buy premium beta or 2) buy an upgrade for my star citizen aurora to a constellation end game ship for the same price 3) buy the standard beta or 4) by x rebirth for almost the same price of the standard ED beta.
After the truly shocking reviews of x rebirth on the web I dropped option 4, and chose option one for the ED premium and upgraded my SC aurora mark MR into a fully upgraded starter ship version the LN for 8 euros.
Why is it damaging? ED standard beta cost less than the x rebirth collectors edition and just read the reviews for that game's release version on the web to see what owners of that game think of the state of the " retail" version of the game.
I have already spent the same amount as the ED standard beta on an SC pre alpha with no game play offered to me other than a hanger to spin my ship around and I have friends who have spent $1,000+ on SC for the same. I think the ED princing for Alpha ( The cost of a constellation pledge pack on SC) is fine). The ED beta pricing is also fine, and the beta is scheduled for early 2014 so no longer to wait for than the SC alpha dig fighting module at similar pricing.
It is true that today, 200 £ is a lot of money. But for the price, you have also the 2 betas, the final game and the expansions. And here, the final game is at rate of pre-order. Therefore cheaper. How much will cost the final game at full price? 50 - 60 - 70 £ ? (and without the expansions)
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This statement is ridiculous, I could not be more a) a fan, b) committed or c) willing to help as much as i can with the game. the point is I am not in a particularly well paid job, have a young family and have the usual mortgage, bills etc to pay. By your standards perhaps I should render my family homeless to show I am 'committed to the devs and the game?' I have backed the game as much as I could afford, I realised straight away that I would not be participating in the alpha phase, I am fine with this. Please refrain from making sweeping general garbage statements like this.
As said, ridiculous.
This statement is ridiculous, I could not be more a) a fan, b) committed or c) willing to help as much as i can with the game. the point is I am not in a particularly well paid job, have a young family and have the usual mortgage, bills etc to pay. By your standards perhaps I should render my family homeless to show I am 'committed to the devs and the game?' I have backed the game as much as I could afford, I realised straight away that I would not be participating in the alpha phase, I am fine with this. Please refrain from making sweeping general garbage statements like this.
As said, ridiculous.
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