Same, and I would be willing to pay $20 usd for access, or Fd can just release more skins (PLEASE) and ill give them more money that way to continue development
C'mon FD, let us upgrade to beta access :D
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I am expecting beta to last longer this time based on the scope of the update and since the galaxy clock for the faction piece only ticks on a weekly basis it's likely going to need several iterations to test it. I have beta access and I will be playing but I am still a pauper. Personally I have no issue with FD offering beta access to others for a price. The only issue is getting the price right so you don't get a deluge of people. The problem is if you pitch the price wrong someone will moan its either too expensive or too dear!
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Dev's have confirmed they will speed powerplay up for testing purposes.
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That may well be the case, but it doesn't mean you didn't make a sweeping generalisation about all beta testers
Not only were bugs found in beta testing but it is good for FD to know when there aren't many bugs. A lot of the exploits often take longer to find than a week and it means FD can get a head start on sorting some of the bugs.
There will be a lot more to test in this beta than the last one. If we go into it and it is unplayable, it will be delayed.
Didn't FD say this beta was only expected to run for a week?
Open up beta to all so that people can log on for 10mins have a look around and log off? Not the most convincing case for opening up beta I have read.
There were plenty of beta backers that spent all their game time in the wings beta last time around and as 1.3 will (should) have a major impact on missions, npc and pvp combat, reputation and wanted/bounty status, I cannot see how it isn't good to try it out (and make mistakes) before it goes live.
Agreed on the small fee though - I think it would make it more likely someone will take the beta more seriously than if it were completely open and FD gets additional funds.
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sweeping generalisations are always the right thing to make
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To be honest, that's really oversimplifying things.
Every Beta test ever run has had things slip through the cracks, and every one in the future will as well. And not just for this game, it's just how things work with software in general.
Exploits are often reported, but don't always get fixed in time for release. Sometimes intentionally. More data is always better than less in these cases, and there are often things going on behind the scenes we don't know about that may be related to the exploit that didn't get 'fixed' in time. There may be other exploits or issues being investigated that rely on the mechanics involved in the exploit. If you close the loophole, you lose the ability to explore and research them further. Not everything that was 'missed' during a Beta is because the people doing the testing are incompetent, as you imply.
Where will this all end I wonder? I get the point about taking more cash but should this set a precedent it won't be long before all our backer rewards are up for grabs. So I think we'll do fine with the present Beta testers especially considering how much hype there is for power play and there are a large number of people able to beta test.
I'll stream it for everyone too and they can Bask in my awesomeness
Roll on Tuesday
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They were both reported during beta but FD rushed out the release. I really hope pp beta is longer than a week.
To be honest my concern is that the BGS, although hugely improved, still has issues. Many of these issues will be addressed in this update. I was happy to hear the BGS would be on a sped up timer. This will definitely help. However, the fidgety-ness of the BGS means that there could be more bugs introduced than fixed. Since the mission system and the BGS are tightly related, any problems introduced between these two could be highly problematic for the game. Hopefully, the devs set up tests to be run (which they have done in the past) and the beta testers will pay attention to these tests (again, which many have done in the past).
Unfortunately, the BGS is not so sexy to many of the players and I fear it might not get a thorough run through. Playing in wings and testing those was interesting to many because it was something they would value in the game on release. There are few that play the BGS at all, even fewer that play daily. Many of those that do, are not even beta testers.
Yeah m8. The problem with the last beta was the changes we knew they were making were the wings additions, new ships and missile changes. As the beta was so short and we had a bunch of new things added noone bothered testing the missiles or wings properly so everyone ended up complaining about the ship prices and were also distracted by the new heat mechanics. A lot of players used it as an opportunity to buy the ship they wanted to test for 100cr and nothing got done.
Where the bgs is concerned this needs major testing and I personally don't think enough beta testers are concerned with it. FD really should open the beta up to more people whether at a price or for free. I'm a beta tester myself but I'm not one of those people who think it should be closed off because other people didn't contribute before the game was released, I'm all about making the game as good as it should and can be.
I'll be really disappointed if the beta is only a week long and we end up with another couple of months with new massive bugs in the game like in wings with the shield recharge and beacon warping.
Imo I think they should have released all the ship stats a week earlier so everyone could debate them to death and play with edshipyard to theorize builds and prices. That means that when the beta does drop it will be more about beta testing than comparing which ship has the biggest "hardpoint".
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I don't think that's an issue really. FD has stated on several occasions that they'd open up sales for Beta access if the need arose, but I can't recall them ever saying that they'd offer up backer rewards for sale in the future.
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Yeah maybe you have a point there. Having been through Alphas and Betas my enthusiasm for testing was reduced the last couple of content releases but I'm fully prepped to test PP. I suppose its not harming things to get beta access if they stump up some cash to help out.
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You have yourself a deal!
I do not believe it would be fair to those of us that bought the game early as well as those that backed it from kickstart to sell beta test access now when it was something we got for buying before release and therefore funding the game to be made. They likely will do it though as it would not be the 1st time they went back on what they said to make money
With how short the BETAs tend to be, wouldn't it be better for the game as a whole to have more testers? People are WILLING to pay to get BETA access to help test and provide feedback on the upcoming content. Sure some of these potential people maybe just using it to DEMO the content but at the same time, not every backer would be playing during the BETA stages whether it's due to IRL obligations or they just have simply no interest in it.
It's a win-win situation for the game and for Frontier. They get more funds to move things along and we as a community get more testers to test the content and hopefully reduce the amount of issues thatll arise from said content.
It's a win-win situation for the game and for Frontier. They get more funds to move things along and we as a community get more testers to test the content and hopefully reduce the amount of issues thatll arise from said content.
Pretty much this. I don't think a large amount of the community should be locked out just because some players want to feel special because they bought in to the game early.
We need all hands on deck in beta situations to make the game as good as it can be and catch as many bugs or imbalances as possible. If FD make a few quid as a by product of this that's also only a good thing.