I don't understand the concept of "grind" in gaming

This is a word that's used more and more frequently on this forum, particularly by those relatively new to the game/forum. And I just don't understand it!

To me, "grinding" implies repetition, monotony, boredom - the sort of things that are polar opposites to what I want to derive from a game, which is FUN/ENJOYMENT. I don't play games to amass massive amounts of digital wealth or assets with no real world monetary value. I play games to have FUN!

I suppose I could dismiss posters who purport to "grinding" by simple saying (as I have done in the past): "Don't do the same thing over-and-over. Branch out - seek variety in gameplay. Focus not on attaining that next big ship or earning more credits. Instead, live in the moment; slow down and smell the roses; enjoy the open world as it was intended." The probem, of course, this doesn't resonate with many of the self-professed "grinders".

Why? Because they will argue that the problem lies with the game's core design; it's base mechanics: missions are too straightforward and repetitive: Fly to A and destroy B. Pick up product at C and return back here. Deliver this message to D. Traders will argue the same - flying back and forth between starports feels too repetitive. Same can be said for mining, exploring etc. "It's all too repetitive", the grinders shout in unison.

The trouble that I have with this line of thinking is that the same can really be said for ANY game, once you drill down into the base mechanics:
* Call of Duty - run around and shoot a gun. It's a grindy mechanic. Dull.
* Far Cry - run around shoot a gun, drive a handful of vehicles. The map's pretty, but the basic actions are the same. Yawn.
* Grand Theft Auto - beautiful, but the map's small and all you do is run around and steal vehicles, rob people and shoot stuff. Very repetitive.
* Forza - drive a car in circles. Boring!
* Any MMO (WoW, GW2, ESO, SWTOR) - level up a character by completing repetitive quests and kill monsters. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
* Chess - move pieces on chess board. The board doesn't even change, and I can't customize my pieces. Grindy!
* Poker - sit around a table, deal some cards and place some bets. Over and over again! Talk about monotonous!

So, my suggestion would be as follows: for anyone who finds the game dull, repetitive, monotonous -try to first address the issue by doingsomething DIFFERENT in-game (as suggested previously). Yes, that's right. Stop doing the same thing over and over. What's that saying... "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result each time." If you've truly tried everything there is to do in Elite (by the way - I've been playing for over a year and STILL learning!), then perhaps it's time to take a break.

I did this recently. I spent a couple of months with Heroes & Generals and GTA V, only to come back to ED. It's that good. I've played this game longer than any other - ever. It's been over a year now. And believe it or not, I only learned how to trade properly 2 days ago, based on using one of the guides posted on here. The key is not to use the 3rd party trading tools, but to go out on your own and hunt down/find a lucrative trade route. It's not easy, and will require a bit of patience and problem-solving, but it's oh-so-rewarding!

Anyway, I suppose that in a nutshell I would simply advise those who feel they are grinding to: STOP. Stop doing it, and stop talking about it. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top.
 
CoD, Farcry, GTA, Forza... Now THAT'S videogame culture!

Even Dungeon Master, Lemings, Worm, Commando, And all old games are about making the same thing again and again... SimCity is grind, all str are grind, street fighter is grind... Even Mario Bross is grind LOL
 
Metal Gear Solid 1234 - crawl around from point A to B
XCOM - blast aliens and loot their bodies
Mass Effect 123 - pump information out of almost everyone you see, and kill the rest

Yeah, everything is a grind these days.
 
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lol, for pity sake, you lot are a load of mithery naysayers. Rule 1: its only a grind if you let it become one, gaming, or even life.
 
Life - Wake up, work, eat, breathe, sleep, etc... Existence is a grind.

What is worse is I am punished by having to buy food and pay taxes over and over again, why cant I just pay it once.
And I lose so many hours a day to sleep, what a dumb mechanic just robbing me blind
 
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Yes we must open a thread and asking our dev (God) to patch our fk life :D

Just found that :D

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You are right OP.

For an example, i was playing BH/Merc style from launch and while it was still fun, it was still the same thing. Yesterday i re-equiped my Python as a pirate ship... and i am simply swimming in fun and enjoyment. :)
 
I like those people that say elite is boring a grind.

This game is so boring Ive played this game for like 2,000 hours, got an anaconda and now I'm bored what now? Why cant it be more like skyrim where I played it for 80 hours and never once got bored much.
 
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As with everything, "grind" is a subjective term. Exploration is a grind to many people, but even though it's bottom of the list for money I love it regardless. Trading is far more profitable, but I'd rather go out mining with a 2-binned refinery than fly back and forth dozens of times on the same path.

Games are only a true grind when your imagination runs out of ways to fill in the gaps in stimulus or feedback.
 
The trouble is that people see a space game with a progression of ships. With top tier ships easily out pew pewing lower class ship. So solution is I like pew pew I need said ships. Oh how much. Trade trade trade or res res res. All so they can go pew pew in bigger ship. Either that or moan why their viper can't take down annaconda.

There is plenty to do in smaller ships trade is trade yes profits are different but still a to b just carrying more carge.

Res usually have more smaller stuff so viper and cobra can have a field day.

If your end goal is to amass ships and credits this game is not for you. If its about the journey. See you out there cmdr.
 
I like those people that say elite is boring a grind.

This game is so boring Ive played this game for like 2,000 hours, got an anaconda and now I'm bored what now? Why cant it be more like skyrim where I played it for 80 hours and never once got bored much.

Lol, had an image of an FSD installed with Fus-Roh-Dah, now that would be fun....
 
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