To the FDL who can't handle being shot at...

It doesn't. Not in the game. The *forum* does.

Seriously, I know people have taboos about kids and cussing, but I don't understand why. They learn to abuse people without cusswords, how does the specific vocabulary they use make it any better or worse?

Whilst I do agree that most kids pick up cussing from the playground, peers etc. If FDEV does allow it in game the game will get 'rerated' from a 7 to a 12+ due to the nature of the communications system alone. Yes i dont want to see this happen its one of those PEGI things where if a game has a chance (even a miniscule one) of exposing a child to profanity then its instantly a higher rating.
 
That's good to know, I can imagine years from now we all end up sounding like a 1920s black and white movie:
Cmdr1: How the devil are you old chap where have you been?
Cmdr2: Oh you know, been in that conflict zone in Eravate dont you know
Cmdr1: by Jove a conflict zone, I hope you took a decent rifle
Cmdr2: yes was there some blighter on the other side started using common language when I engaged him, totally unsporting what?
Cmdr1: by Jove dashed unsporting.

Love this! But given that we're clearly devolving - as a species - on the speech and values front, I thought I would complement your version with a modern day interpretation. The following is the same dialogue with 2 modern teens:

Cmdr 1: 'Sup.
Cmdr 2: Blowing <stuff> up in Eravate.
Cmdr 1: D'ya kick-<stuff>?
Cmdr 2: Yup. Some dude cussed me out. LOL.
Cmdr 1: <stuff>. LMFAO.

Apologies in advance if my wrist gets slapped for "disguised swearing" - I took the moral low ground, and couldn't resist.
 
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i disagree, any game not rated by ESRB:

"Online interactions not rated by the ESRB.

Warning: May Contain mature content or adult themes."

thats how it goes im afraid, and i see no profanity filter in the chat system, and its is a very very very very very easy thing to implement if needed

also FD said nothing of the sort, its at the 'victiims discresion and FD' no one stated cold hard rules here, your exaggerating things a little
No, online interactions cannot be rated by the ESRB - they haven't happened when the rating is being decided, and the ESRB realise that the producer/publisher/etc have NO control over them. But FD DO have the option of taking action, and the EULA has been shown to state that abusive behaviour - which includes swearing on chat channels - is not allowed. FD may decide to impliment a filter in the future. It won't bother me if they do as I don't swear, but I do believe I have proven one of the problems with filters in my post above. There are two [minimum] definitions of a word I have used which have nothing to do with swearing, but this forum's filters won't allow me to use it as it has been used as a deroggatory term.
 

Scudmungus

Banned
Sorry, I think you're wrong. I've heard everything you're saying a thousand times and from a thousand sources, and I never agreed with it before. Jamaican Guru or not, I'll never agree with you. :)

No worries mon - all irie. Long as ya be ok at end of the day. Walk good! :D
 

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The forum software (VBulletin) has a swear filter.... as has been demonstrated in this thread....

In the game (I have never tried it out myself) there appears to be no filter, going by the contents of numerous posts about in-game chats.

Also it should be remembered that FD have access to the complete chat sessions, so any reported chat will be assessed in it's entirety, not just on one line.
 
The forum software (VBulletin) has a swear filter.... as has been demonstrated in this thread....

In the game (I have never tried it out myself) there appears to be no filter, going by the contents of numerous posts about in-game chats.

Also it should be remembered that FD have access to the complete chat sessions, so any reported chat will be assessed in it's entirety, not just on one line.

If you can read through the chat logs it shouldnt be to hard to implement a chat filter to remove cuss words for those that want them removed. After all its a string search to see if it contains a string (with spaces around to not remove words like assets making it ***ets etc). If dave is to busy I could provide some C++ source for this function.
 
The forum software (VBulletin) has a swear filter.... as has been demonstrated in this thread....

In the game (I have never tried it out myself) there appears to be no filter, going by the contents of numerous posts about in-game chats.

Also it should be remembered that FD have access to the complete chat sessions, so any reported chat will be assessed in it's entirety, not just on one line.

indeed and as it should be imo, and tbh frank and honest, ive been playing since beta, met hundreads of players, and ive seen more insults on this forums, with a profanity filter, directed towards players than i have seen ingame
 
I have absolutely no problem with people playing the game, interdicting me, killing me, destroying me in a combat zone. That's the game. That's what it is. And if you're not exploiting that's fine.

But there's absolutely no reason ever to start throwing personal insults at anyone.

The only action I would ever try to prevent via anything but my CMDR's in game resources and ability is cheating.

As far as I am concerned, if there is a chat function, anything that can be put into it is as much a part of the game as of the things you have mentioned. I have certainly seen it influence the things you have mentioned. I've have had incompetent, but foul mouthed, wingmates attract virtually all hostile CMDR fire while I was ignored and thus able to turn the battle in our favor...because my opponents had placed avenging an insult over sound tactics. I've also been on the losing side for similar reason...allies going after someone because they were offensive rather than a prudent target. So, these things are obviously another later of strategic and tactical depth.

As for what people can or can't handle, I don't see any relevance in this. There are people who can't handle the gameplay mechanics you mention, and that is their problem. So is not being able to handle words or distractions. If it gets in the way, that's what the block feature is for.

Obviously, I know FD doesn't see things my way, and I generally follow the rules they have laid out. However, there is no way I'm going to report anyone for breaking these kinds of rules. I feel people are entitled to say whatever they care to say, and I am entitled to ignore or block them if I find it overly disagreeable or distracting.

Absolutely. Bad language displays a most disagreeable lack of social grace, and should be actively discouraged.

I find social grace disagreeable.

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We are all playing an online game where we have absolutely no idea of the ages of the other players.

I don't care what anyone's age is and don't think age should exempt anyone from anything.

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If I learned that a child of mine was picking up obscenities from a computer game - whether it was from the game program or other players, that game would be removed and they would be banned from playing it.

If your children have the manual dexterity and literacy required to play and communicate within Elite: Dangerous, they have almost certainly picked up every obscenity under the sun already, unless you have been very obsessive in sheltering them from human interaction.

Surely it's easy to work out what language you can use and what you can't - it's the same as the language you use on the forum - handily it seems to edit your post and just removes the word before it appears.

I've had the forum remove words from some of my posts that resulted in some of my posts being filled with holes and me being puzzled as to exactly which words were removed.

I cannot always predict what other people or robots may or may not find kosher.
 
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I'm sure it wouldn't be hard, but it would cause a lot of problems too. Like I said earlier, you could hardly say *anything* in SWTOR, the filter was so strict. Any word that contained part of a word that was considered derogatory by any minority anywhere in the world in any language would cause the whole word to be dashed out. I couldn't talk about hot food!

This is where a relative check comes in for example the work A S S mild I know but in assets it would be removed if the filter isnt coded right BUT if you check for spaces around the word so it becomes " a-s-s " (without hyphens) its easier to pickup. Also check for other things like beginning and ending of sentences and things like ! etc and then it becomes pretty robust. With that words like assets will get through but if go "your being a a-s-s" without quotes it wont.

Another note is with a automatic filter its easier for FDEV to keep tabs on the obscene language that goes on and can warn accordingly.
 
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I'm fighting in a War Zone at Eravate when I see a two player ships turn red. One a FDL, one a Sidewinder. The FDL is Wanted, so I go for that. The shields in my Clipper aren't great so I bug out when they're low. Then I get a mouthful of abuse, told <guess the obscenity>, and that attacking him was out of order, that I should only be targeting NPCs.


The guy obviously did not know how war zones work.
Did you get the FDL?
 
We meet that FDL in my video at the station and he was quite baffled. It is not like he was in trouble, at any point he could boosted away (or just blown me up again).

I have been PMed that it wasn't the guy. Dave (in the video) was a good guy, he even went off and got an eagle to have a play.
 
The guy obviously did not know how war zones work.
Did you get the FDL?

requoted what i earlier said, seems like you missed it, your answer is below :)

whoa this thread balloned! haha

happy to report he was taught a lesson i think :) a lesson in manners you could say

PS: funnly enough this guy turned out to be the same guy i killed about 6 hours ago in the same system, inderdicted me and had a pop and soon realised he was outclassed :p

*edit* when i turned up on the scene to help stocko, he quickly changed his story and tried to lie his way out of it, before promptly shooting the fella who i had offered to lend a hand, classic! you can guess what happened next
 
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