Clipper vs Python maneuverability and level of fun in combat...?
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I have both, and I keep trying to give my clipper new chances to prove itself. But against the python it falls short on number of hardpoints, their positioning, and both strength and cost of the shield generator. The only plus with the clipper are the initial cost and its looks. imho. but some pilots swear it is better, so I hope any one of those can post their pro-clipper arguments here, because I do not have any for you. Sadly.
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I agree with Draxxen. The Clipper is a lovely and beautiful ship and it seems a bit unfair to compare it to the Python. The Clipper at 40% of the price is a fair reflection.
Ok 70m spent on either ship would make a good case for the Clipper but then you're not comparing like with like in terms of combat spec. If you have cash (at least 00m+) then the python is a beast. The clipper just feels a bit flimsy.
I only play pve and my opinion does not take into account personal preference but for me its the python.
Python all day. Specially now if your doing any type of strike zone or conflict zone, also if you are hostile to a faction in RES sites you frequent, the new AI and their wing tactics rip into you now, definitely need the Python's strength to survive any decent amount of time. (well assuming you don't get the all Mostly Harmless variants.)
In my experience PVPing the Clipper can be a serious threat to any ship in the game, provided its pilot knows what he's doing. I don't think it's inherently superior, but I think it has the capability to be if you're comfortable enough flying it to make it dance. I have done some amazing stuff with mine.
Thanks for the info.
Makes sense of course, FD does balance their ships by price.
The only question I'd have in that regard if they balance by fully fitted price or by base price ;-)
I guess it must be base price, or else no other ship would be able to touch a fully fitted 900 million conda.
I did like the Python when I had one as a pure trade ship. Maneuverability was excellent, you just didn't feel the size, unlike the Anaconda, which I wouldn't care to take fighting, even though its smooth and maneuvers a lot better than the T9 space cow.
The Clipper's weight is hugely useful if you aren't afraid to get dirty in a fight and go all in. I have killed hostile player Anacondas via collision.
I've had nothing but mostly harmless since 1.3 so switching down to a Viper until resolved.
Ah thanks for all the more answers...
I guess the new AI just made things that much harder for the Clipper.
I guess I could fit the Clipper since I already have one sitting around to try it a few times and if I have issues (like having to claim my insurance), I can swap.
Now to those who like the Clipper but would much prefer the Python in a war zone... what purpose would you use the clipper for, if you don't need it for trading?
I guess the new AI just made things that much harder for the Clipper.
I guess I could fit the Clipper since I already have one sitting around to try it a few times and if I have issues (like having to claim my insurance), I can swap.
Now to those who like the Clipper but would much prefer the Python in a war zone... what purpose would you use the clipper for, if you don't need it for trading?
Bah, its a sexy ship, but outclassed by the Python combat specced.
To be 100% honest, on paper the Python is far better than the Clipper. As many have stated, it has more fire power and bigger shields and can carry more cargo and land at outposts. I can afford either one fully A-spec'd, but own a Clipper even with all the stated advantages of the Python. With both ships, you own the fight; with the Python, you are a flying tank. You are slow, but can give and take a lot of damage. A strong signal source is doable in a Python depending what ships you get. But, once the shields are down, the enemy will be all over you, as everything can catch you. And in 1.3, I've noticed NPC's trying to chase down my Clipper.
With the Clipper, you own the fight with speed and maneuverability. Nothing can really catch you, thus you dictate the speed and intensity of the conflict. The A7 shield is expensive, but provides Vulture type shield with A-boosters. Here is my load out: http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=703,5TP5TP7u57u50_g0_g0_g0_g,2-9Y9Y7_8S9Y7_6k,7Vs52W5Es0727fE9sK2jw2UI
today in a crime sweep, I was getting a lot of Pythons and anacondas, along with other ships. 1 thing I noticed is the smaller try and get you to be around the larger ships. When this happens, you simply boost away.
Im a clipper man for PP. now if I was trading, I would go type-9, as neither the Python or clipper can compare to the type-9.
Oh oh and clipper in graphite is amazing!!!!
With the Clipper, you own the fight with speed and maneuverability. Nothing can really catch you, thus you dictate the speed and intensity of the conflict. The A7 shield is expensive, but provides Vulture type shield with A-boosters. Here is my load out: http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=703,5TP5TP7u57u50_g0_g0_g0_g,2-9Y9Y7_8S9Y7_6k,7Vs52W5Es0727fE9sK2jw2UI
today in a crime sweep, I was getting a lot of Pythons and anacondas, along with other ships. 1 thing I noticed is the smaller try and get you to be around the larger ships. When this happens, you simply boost away.
Im a clipper man for PP. now if I was trading, I would go type-9, as neither the Python or clipper can compare to the type-9.
Oh oh and clipper in graphite is amazing!!!!
Challenge accepted, omw.
(j/k) But, when you are in civilized space again I am mostly certainly down for a gentleman's duel. ign: 0btuse (the o is a zero)
Nah, I'm an explorer on the side (just about to get Ranger!) I would never shoot someone down whose out exploring
Just make sure you have a lot of money for a decent fit.
I am a very casual player so my clipper is only set up for trade. I did try a combat clipper yesterday but i cannot affort an A setup and i only had a class B tier 6 shield.
It works but it is definatly not enough to make the clipper work for combat. It's shields are simply weay too weak and that ship is huge. The enmey can't really miss a clipper!
With a 100 mill setup it probaly shines. I will buy a maxed out courier for fun now since i hate credit grinding.
I am a very casual player so my clipper is only set up for trade. I did try a combat clipper yesterday but i cannot affort an A setup and i only had a class B tier 6 shield.
It works but it is definatly not enough to make the clipper work for combat. It's shields are simply weay too weak and that ship is huge. The enmey can't really miss a clipper!
With a 100 mill setup it probaly shines. I will buy a maxed out courier for fun now since i hate credit grinding.
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