I don't think that a lot of people are annoyed by being offered options they aren't forced to choose. Thing is that people have asked for an arena mode. Some people are never happy, I guess.
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Galnet E3 announcement by president Hudson?
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I don't think that a lot of people are annoyed by being offered options they aren't forced to choose. Thing is that people have asked for an arena mode. Some people are never happy, I guess.
The way i understand the galnet news is that player could go to Sol system and inside one station they could have an option to sign in the PvP arena. This would mean that the arena would be completly cut from the main universe and that all players win: PvP fan base and PvE fan base. It could increase the number of players in open mode as most PvP hungry player will go play in the arena (where there could be an alternative acount for the credit system to buy ships and upgrades), making room for people to go PvE in coop without fear the psycho killing spree since PP arrived.
If that's it then Good job Frontier!
If that's it then Good job Frontier!
I've been re-evaluating my time with ED recently. If this is true, that evaluation is over. It's, even on paper only, just laughably ridiculous.
+1, diversity always superior
Thanks for clarifying my own postI'm not very good at explaining myself, this is exactly 100% what I meant.
Elite: Dangerous is no longer the game pitched at the kickstarter and rightfully a lot of people are annoyed by this as some pledged thousands. I'm glad I didn't though I have gave them about 200 quid. I've put hours into the game and I'm burnt out and more than a little jaded. Frontier have continually disappointed and will continue to do so. I dread to think about planetary landings and how they're going to implement it. Zero confidence at the moment.
Pretty sure the game was pitched as the game the devs want to play. You don't like PvP arenas. Point taken. Apparently the devs do. You do not like the direction the game is going. The devs have to pay to keep the lights on. Visions=fantasy, fantasy is never realized in reality. You bought into the fantasy, the reality is something different. In the end...you have the same choice every other player has. Turn on the game and play...or not. Make your choice.
The reaction to Powerplay would suggest otherwise.
Also: Person A asks for an Arena. Person B doesn't want one. Frontier give an Arena, Person B is unhappy.
Saying that "some people are never happy", because person A and person B have different opinions, doesn't make much sense.
Sure is, they would be pretty unhappy if ED got shut down because it isn't affordable anymore. The best option is to kill two birds with one stone. This is what they did here as many people ASKED for an arena mode, including me. If you are not able to resist on playing it, although you don't like it, than this is not the fault of FD.
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He also has a third choice, which is to come on the forums and post his opinion about the matter.
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This exactly how I don't want Frontier to implement it. Fighting in the arenas should be another career option and it link into the rest of the universe, not a separate game.
Viajero
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Yes. The world where companies promise an apple and then give you an orange!
I think there are quite a few things discussed in the original kickstarter, and after, that have made it to the game indeed. Let´s not forget all that please.
Even in the video you like to quote as nothing like what we have today (where Braben discusses the way the galaxy would work out) there are clear and distinctive points in it that allude directly at how Powerplay and Community Goals work exactly for example (min 3:01 or 4:55 in that video). You just chose to ignore them selectively.
I understand that you may have a personal vision of what the game should be and have chosen to interpret Braben´s words in a very personal way, but what it is difficult to argue is that FDEV have delivered quite a lot of what they said they would. And that includes lots of elements in that Braben´s video aswell.
The fact you dont like it or want them to work in a different set of priorities is fine, but let´s at least give credit to where credit is due for what has been delivered according to that original plan.
There is also the element of risk we take by going through a crowdfunding process. Name me a single kickstarter or crowdfunded project of the magnitude of Elite or larger that claims to have fulfilled all their promises and I ll show you a lie.
The real question is, is the game, with all the elements actually delivered as per plan and those that didnt make it, fun for you to play or not? Everything else is a bit of personal bias into what was or not said and as such, pretty useless.
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This is why people asked for an offline mode.
And Frontier have also "promised" that they will make the server code public if Elite ever gets shut down.
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i hope it comes whit spectator mode and a betting system.
if it can open up a new career path to become a space gladiator then i see it as an welcome addition to the "blaze your own trail" theme.
but if its just pvp for the sake of pvp then i think im pretty indifferent about it.
if it can open up a new career path to become a space gladiator then i see it as an welcome addition to the "blaze your own trail" theme.
but if its just pvp for the sake of pvp then i think im pretty indifferent about it.
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Actually, what it really means is, that those that want to get better at PvP can go to the arena, then come back to Open and be more effective in bounty hunting and Powerplay killing. The meta will grow more complex, faster, and be harder to keep up with.
I expect it will be tightly integrated into YouTube Gaming. Which was hint in yesterday letter and just announced today by Youtube.
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I only quoted that video once Viajero. However I did quote other people referencing the video.
I give Frontier plenty of credit for making an awesome game. I have a YouTube channel full of videos doing that. Please don't mistake my recent outspoken posts against the recent direction of Elite as an attack upon everything Frontier do. I can be unhappy with 30% of the game, and express that. I'm usually fairly clear and detailed in my opinions and thoughts, and rarely (if ever?) make an outright attack on the game.
The reaction to Powerplay would suggest otherwise.
Also: Person A asks for an Arena. Person B doesn't want one. Frontier give an Arena, Person B is unhappy.
Saying that "some people are never happy", because person A and person B have different opinions, doesn't make much sense.
No, everything you say here doesn't make any sense, no matter how many emoticons you spam to cover it. If person B is unhappy about person A being happy about an OPTION that person B isn't forced to CHOOSE, than the issues of person B have more to do with his personality than with FD.
Exactly what I just said!!!
What I meant is that you cannot say, "some people are never happy", simply because different people have different opinions.
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kreuzbichler
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then they should have made it with their own ´dev money´ if they are so keen on making their own game and not an Elite. This is still not a worthy FE2 successor and they now waste time on making an arena game?
if this speculation is true this is desperately becoming a ´me too´ game, guess they are scared of CCP now releasing the ultimate Oculus space dogfight arena Valkyrie?
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Viajero
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I only quoted that video once Viajero. However I did quote other people referencing the video.
I give Frontier plenty of credit for making an awesome game. I have a YouTube channel full of videos doing that. Please don't mistake my recent outspoken posts against the recent direction of Elite as an attack upon everything Frontier do. I can be unhappy with 30% of the game, and express that. I'm usually fairly clear and detailed in my opinions and thoughts, and rarely (if ever?) make an outright attack on the game.
Well, that principle does not show very clearly in statements like:
I mean, I understand where you are coming from but stating categorical things as facts like that is really misleading. As mentioned, things are not just black or white. Plenty of grey in between. And with regards to Community Goals and Powerplay in particular that original video of Braben actually nailed its mechanics more than 2 years ago.
The real factual statement here is that David Braben indeed explained PP and CG´s mechanics principles at the very start of all this (min 3:00 and 4:55 of that video as examples). I think it is actually amazing that they had that vision of that particular aspect of the game so long ago and have actually delivered on it like clockwork.
The fact you dont seem to like it is a whole different story and you have all the right in the world to say it, but if we are getting "factual" let´s at least agree that FDEV has delivered on that particular front.
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You take that too literally. My point is: Some people are only happy when everything revolves around themselves. And that is exactly the spirit of your opinion.
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