1.3 has destroyed 1.2

I am disappointed with the 1.3 update. Feels like all Power and no Play. Frontier pushed the Powers part out now and left the Play part to come later when they've fixed it.

I enjoyed playing this game in a private group of my friends, I enjoyed forming a wing and taking on challenges together, and most of all I enjoyed returning to the station with said friends to happily call it a good day's work. Now with 1.3 it is gone, all gone, every single bit of the cooperative gameplay 1.2 had brought has been either destroyed or bug ridden.

Simply trying to login to a private group you get some sort of adjudication error garbage. Then there is the slight stutter of other ships in supercruise during the peak hours, usually on the weekends. Did the hamster powering the server get sick? Or maybe it died, I did recall the servers going down all together the other weekend.

Trying to simply form a wing with your friends is arduous at best. The requests never get through, the voice comms never get through, the text messages never get through, the darn online status never even gets through, it's like the server doesn't even want to try. You and your friends have to relog over and over and over until by the grace of god, and the alignment of the planets, the server decides to take off from its coffee break and connect you together.

Oh, but it doesn't stop there. When you finally meet your friend face to face in whatever instance you decided to meet in be it a res, cz, or even outside a station, should you move even 5 or 6 km away from your friend they will fall off the edge of the universe. They show up as disconnected and get booted to another instance while the server picks its nose and your friend spams you with messages on steam asking what the hell just happened. Oh and should you be in a res with you as the escort and they as the miner, you get to twiddle thumbs while your friend gets blown to smithereens by the pirates, because wasting your time wasn't good enough but wasting your credits is even better. And it sure takes a good long few minutes for the server to say oops and reconnect them to your instance if they aren't already gone, floating debris, or gone to sleep.

So the solution seems obvious right, hug your friend's rear like the dog that belonged to the loneliest housewife. Oh what's that? The entire instance crashed and forced you and every single friend of yours in the same instance to your desktop with some crash report window all at the same time? Yea that sounds about right. Again this issue happens only at peak hours of the day.

Oh no, I forgot about the drones! Who could forget how the drones are such utter failures in wings! Seriously, I have not a single clue why drones are not immune to collision damage with the PARENT ship. Put two CMDRs together, have one dump cargo, and have the other try to pick it up with drones and see how it goes. Yep that's right, a whole ton of booms and Collection Failed message spam. 9 out of 10 drones just go blammo against your hull/shield in the general vicinity of your cargo hatch. The cargo gets delivered despite the false Collection Failed message but at pretty much a 1:1 ratio in limpets to get it. Want your friend's 40 gold? Hope you got 40 limpets. Oh and make sure you drop no more than 20 at a single time either, sure glad I'm not a pirate. Keep in mind if your wingmate moves say 6km out your drones will start working as per normal without them crashing into your hatch, but your wingmate is likely going to be pulled into the void of a new instance for the next 5 minutes as well.

From what my friends and I could tell the whole server side networking for wing members seems to have gone to hell and is staying there to burn anyone interested in co-op. With the recent patches to this day the only fixes we have seemed to notice are the adjudication server issues having disappeared and collector drones no longer playing follow the leader.

I miss wings, they were fun and engaging for playing with friends. Oh well.
 
Simple : Do not play Power Play, play the way you want like in 1.2.

I will not take part into Power Play because it is nt the game i want. I use to have fun with missions, exploration business, trading and fighting as before 1.3.

Opt OUT Power !
 
Not really had any problems, wings work fine for me since 1.3 and never had any instancing issues, only had disconnection issues a few times over a few hours and nothing since
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Sounds like it's not the 1.3 update but simply a strain on your local servers causing you issues, I've winged up plenty of times and not once since 1.3 has there been any problems like you describe
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In fact with the better A.I it's actually been a much better experience in a wing
 
I think PP will affect all in the Galaxy one way or another weather you are involved or not .. I feel its something that can't be avoided..
As far as I can see all populated space will be affected one way or another...
 
I just ignore the PP stuff and am doing relatively okay. A lot of stuff in the misisons doesn't feel right (or rather, annoyingly wrong), especially the combat missions in combination with the new bounty/fine system (where else in the multiverse do you get a "dead-or-alive" bounty on your head first, and then the parking ticket after the bounty has worn off?). I appreciate the improved system map since I can now select stations as nav destinations directly, the new ships and the better AI. The docking computer is also awesome now. GalNet news suck - they were shown nicely "for a glance" in the service screens of the stations. Now I have to visit some GalNet news website. Less ergonomic, more unnecessary fanciness. One would thing that professional starfarers actually like a professional, efficient workplace.
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So in summary, I like most of what they added that's not part of Power Play or supposed to handle whatever PvP issue it was they addressed. Everything else, I hope 1.4 removes it again. ;) I don't do wings, so no experience here. Game seems to be slower, though (FSD exits 'n all).
 
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Simple : Do not play Power Play, play the way you want like in 1.2.

I will not take part into Power Play because it is nt the game i want. I use to have fun with missions, exploration business, trading and fighting as before 1.3.

Opt OUT Power !

Forums! Do not read the first posting, only read the headline and write what you think he might have written?
(Edit: till i wrote this, several more people have commented. Of all of them, only ONE actually has read the first posting, the rest obviously reacted blindly. Really, people, reading might be a lost art, but sometimes it's worth practicing. )

He does not write about PowerPlay being a problem but of a plethora of other problems he experiences since the recent patch. And while i don't find them as crippling as he does (two of my friends are taking a break from the game due to 1.3, the rest is less on, so i fly way more solo than before), i also can confirm that flying together in wing got more frustrating due to technical reasons than before. This starts with skype or TS now being required for communication, as in-game communication has become unreliable with the 1.3 patch.

That being said, as you (Cel) seem to experience the problems in a way more severe manner than i do and seem to have more accurate info on them, i would advise to drop a pile of bug reports on them, one posting for every issue you have, into the bug reports forum.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=105
 
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You're also suffering from the "undocumented fix" that limits you to only being able to drop 20t of cargo (all the rest explodes) which has killed piracy.
 
Dunno why people rely on ingame voice anyways. Never tried the ED one, but in most other games those just have horrid quality. And its not like a TS Server or similiar costs a fortune *shrug*
 
I have question about Power Play stats.

I'm allied with Pranav Antal, and he gave me 50% more bounty and fine pay off.
This stat work only under his region? Not everywhere?
 
Dunno why people rely on ingame voice anyways. Never tried the ED one, but in most other games those just have horrid quality. And its not like a TS Server or similiar costs a fortune *shrug*

The in-game VOIP of ED actually is pretty good. They "for flavour" added "transmission noise", which for my taste should be tuned down. For use with friends, regular TS still wins, not due to the quality of the actual transmission but due to the artificial noise. But when just encountering people, you in ED can just open channels and talk, without requiring to invite everybody into your TS server.

So, with the absence of bugs, this would be really better than a random TS server.
 

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I'm not experiencing any problems with wing invites or voice coms. Since 1.3 I've finally had reasons to form wings and play with my friends and other commanders, whereas before all they were doing was diluting my profits.

I get that RESs are awful now, and that's a shame because it was a fun thing to do with friends, but besides that 1.3 is more interactive than ever before.

But then, ymmv.
 
I'm not experiencing any problems with wing invites or voice coms. Since 1.3 I've finally had reasons to form wings and play with my friends and other commanders, whereas before all they were doing was diluting my profits.

I get that RESs are awful now, and that's a shame because it was a fun thing to do with friends, but besides that 1.3 is more interactive than ever before.

But then, ymmv.

My experience too.

Have formed wings for the first time. No problems....which surprised me given my poor connection.

I do feel for the OP. Hope it gets ironed out.
 
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