You can't pay off bounties now. They sit there and fester for 7 days until mutating into a fine you can then pay off.
So what is the current Criminality mechanics (now)? 7 days now unable to pay bounty... Then...?
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You can't pay off bounties now. They sit there and fester for 7 days until mutating into a fine you can then pay off.
The legacy fine is the biggest pile of crap from my pirate perspective.
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I have about 1.5mill in legacy fines, they do not convert back to a bounty when scanned ( i presume this is to stop credit sellers) so i no longer have a bounty on my head for the nefarious acts i have previously committed. I always liked the idea of keeping my bounty as long as possible and was genuinely looking forward to the day someone took it from me in combat, but this isn’t going to happen now. I already Role Played as a pirate as there is no way in the galaxy you can actually make any money out of it, but now having the price on my head taken away, leaves the experience feeling dull, or do frontier expect me to login every 7 days to kill something to keep my bounty ticking over.........
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I have about 1.5mill in legacy fines, they do not convert back to a bounty when scanned ( i presume this is to stop credit sellers) so i no longer have a bounty on my head for the nefarious acts i have previously committed. I always liked the idea of keeping my bounty as long as possible and was genuinely looking forward to the day someone took it from me in combat, but this isn’t going to happen now. I already Role Played as a pirate as there is no way in the galaxy you can actually make any money out of it, but now having the price on my head taken away, leaves the experience feeling dull, or do frontier expect me to login every 7 days to kill something to keep my bounty ticking over.........
Oh God I'm confused again.
So you have a 1mCR bounty in System X.
Eight days later you do not - You instead have a 1mCR fine, which you only have to pay if you die and have to re-buy there?
If you commit another crime in System X, then your 1mCR fine is returned to an active bounty?
If you break the law in the same jurisdiction, they add the new crime to your existing bounty and reset the timer to 7 days. So you can keep your bounty as long as you remain notorious for your actions in their space.
So my question is say I work up a bounty in a system with the minor faction X, then I just move to system minor faction Y. I just keep moving, will I never have to pay the fines pretty much? Just become a roaming bounty hunter so to say. While the fines are still active will they be picked up in another system, or would they need a KW scanner? And would the KW scanner pick up dormant fines from other systems?
Once a bounty is converted to a legacy fine it will never be remade into a bounty, instead a new bounty will be issued... remember that the bounties were supposed to be capped at 1M Cr per jurisdiction BUT the legacy fine is not capped and so can grow substantially though obtaining multiple bounties in the same jurisdiction over time
Yes, excalibus is clearer - my bad. I was referring to what happens if you commit another crime in their space when you still have a bounty. A legacy fine won't 'activate' into a bounty again. But if you want to keep your bounty in a given jurisdiction's space, then commit another murder before your 7 day timer runs out.
Sorry, I meant a legacy fine to be paid off
Yes, you can. But if you forget about them and then return to one of their stations without realising it, you could end up blown up, back at the rebuy screen and forced to pay all outstanding fines. And those fines aren't capped.
Fines can't be scanned for, only bounties. A bounty is a price on your head, and you can't pay it off. They're offering it to other people. A fine is something they want you to pay.
KWS will pick up the active bounties to my knowlege, I am not sure about the dormant ones but really it should pick them up too because a KWS is supposed to access the authorities from all jurisdictions
I assume you meant dormant bounties
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Yeah, you can do that - but you wouldn't be able to do anything about the bounty, so you'd be wanted as you flew in and out. It's probably better to wait for the week to run out and the bounty value to get added to the existing legacy fines then pay the lot off when you're not wanted.
I really dislike this 7 day thing. I found a sweet spot last night, hunting in a res and a security npc ran into me, not I ran into him, he ran into me. I instantly turned to wanted and him and his buddies started lighting me up, now I cant come back to that spot for 7 days. : (, just plain stupid.
Most of your confusion is caused by constantly interchanging the words "bounty" and "fine".
It's a really simple system
It only gets muddled if you keep no records of which systems and factions you are marked up as owing blood money too. So called "pirates" that shotgun loads of systems with crime sprees moan the most. Peeps like Ralph moan because they cannot get out of paying large amounts of owed cash now due to the legacy system.
It's a really simple system
It only gets muddled if you keep no records of which systems and factions you are marked up as owing blood money too. So called "pirates" that shotgun loads of systems with crime sprees moan the most. Peeps like Ralph moan because they cannot get out of paying large amounts of owed cash now due to the legacy system.
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Yeah, but actually you'll find there are RES's all over - look for Extraction economy systems, and then planets within them with rings. There's usually lots of them. Once I got over the idea of being tied to one place, I realised it wasn't that hard to just avoid the one system where I'd accidentally killed someone and caused a ruckus... just a week after all.
I did very recently manage to accidental ram-murder someone at the system where I'd parked all my ships though. That has made for an interesting week
My lessons learned from this: do not crap on my doorstep. If I'm really going to insist to myself that I should have a home system, treat it like my home and don't do stuff there that could result in a murder charge. I do my hunting elsewhere and I fly careful at the stations in this system (until I get lazy and complacent and screw things up again, heheh).
Relative motion bylaws, he was moving and you was moving, he is an authority vessel, you are in the wrong according to ED Bylaw 1 Section 4 subsection 32A, paragraph 12, Clause F, part IV
All suspects are guilty, otherwise they wouldn't be suspects
So when you go to a station and it lists the top 5 bounties there. eg:-
CMDR A - 1,000,000CR
CMDR B - 600,000CR
CMDR C - 500,000CR
CMDR D - 300,000CR
CMDR E - 250,000CR
CMDR B - 600,000CR
CMDR C - 500,000CR
CMDR D - 300,000CR
CMDR E - 250,000CR
Surely this list is now pointless? If one of the CMDRs commits no offense in a system for 7 days, his bounty disappears?
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LMAO, I don't want to get out of paying, I want the bounty to remain on my head so other bounty hunters can find me, kill me and claim my bounty. At the moment my bounty vanishes in 7 days and I never need to worry about it again, which is stupid, would you not agree?
If his bounty goes.. he's no longer on the list... someone else ... will be... so therefore. . It's not actually pointless
Ya but it was in a Fed controlled system so I was getting extra money for bountys (thus the "sweet spot"), was not able to find another fed controlled system remotely close to the one I was at that had res sites so I just went and did some CZ killing. Will look some more today when I get home from work.
ahhh but you see it was done this way as there were people selling the bounty on their head for real world money... and soooo now it is this... with a long term non expiring fine which you can choose to pay but for that week you have a bounty, if you truely want the bounty to stay on your head then you have to work a little bit to keep it there... all it takes is firing on 1 clean ship to get an assault bounty to refresh your existing bounty for another week, not a big deal really...