Agreed, and its even more stupid for FD to put this in Galnet as if its true. Then again, s'pose they have to do something to get players to come to the forums to find out what is and isn't currently possible.
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Agreed, and its even more stupid for FD to put this in Galnet as if its true. Then again, s'pose they have to do something to get players to come to the forums to find out what is and isn't currently possible.
At some point FDev should allow influential player groups to become their own small Powers, though I am not sure how one would define influential. Perhaps if they are based in a system where the minor power controls several systems?
One of the bigger stumbling blocks is that, to keep a new power on the level with existing one, Frontier would have to develop all the art and the modules, as well as try and make the various conditions and details for prep and expansion, etc., balanced. I know AA came up with their own graphic, but, Frontier would have to be the ones making those harpoons.
This roadblock - the amount of work FDev would need to do - strikes me as one of the bigger obstacles to an emerging Power.
One of the bigger stumbling blocks is that, to keep a new power on the level with existing one, Frontier would have to develop all the art and the modules, as well as try and make the various conditions and details for prep and expansion, etc., balanced. I know AA came up with their own graphic, but, Frontier would have to be the ones making those harpoons.
This roadblock - the amount of work FDev would need to do - strikes me as one of the bigger obstacles to an emerging Power.
Well if we are to have player created powers then there should be a transparent system in place on how everyone can achieve this. Frontier cherry picking certain groups just wouldnt be fair to everyone else playing the game. And should this ever happen without being open to all we'd enter a situation of bias from the developers. At which point my own involvement in the game would be over.
I find FDevs behaviour in certain respects totally contradictory. Despite requests for such game play they made it pretty clear during development they didnt want the game to have group control yet we've seen them promoting certain groups in a manner that doesn't fit with that. I think a bit of clarification would be nice right about now.
As you said, there intentionally is no group or player control.
There's only FD's attempts to create the illusion as if there were.
And that's GalNet's sole purpose.
There is no going to be "player powers", a player group can participate in the creation of a power, at which point it loses control over it. And taking shortcuts through PR is not a way to do it.
If on the other side, what you want is to have fun, sounds an awesome initiative, but is not, and will not be, anything else (for starters it wouldn't be fair to other groups that actually are having to put with all the boring stuff that may involve making a power, like sinking hundreds of manpower hours supporting existing powers or minor factions).
If on the other side, what you want is to have fun, sounds an awesome initiative, but is not, and will not be, anything else (for starters it wouldn't be fair to other groups that actually are having to put with all the boring stuff that may involve making a power, like sinking hundreds of manpower hours supporting existing powers or minor factions).
Maybe you should give this "words" thing a try, the picture angle isn't working out for you.
Player groups could influence the way in which their power will expand, control, prepare and deal with enemy powers. If a (pre-power) player group projects a certain attitude during it's lifespan, then, when they become a power these values they promote can be embedded upon the structure of their power. Just a little example: a group which positions itself as "anti-pirate" might receive a trait, directly connected with the attitude they are promoting. Same goes for unique weapons. They can be shaped to suit the needs of pirate hunters.
Once the baby is born, it's somewhat out of control, yes, but it still is a "player power" and an instrument, shaped to manifest the will of the original group.
Letting them turn into a power is not stupid, it's actually pretty cool.
But letting them call themselves a power already even though they don't control anything is indeed stupid. My friends and I have a wing and play a lot, where are a power too?
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Wait, what? How did you come to the conclusion we have anything to do with Thargoids? lol Genuinely curious
Let's learn ED terminology then, first.
Minor factions are these tiny little system restricted (and maybe a few % influence in neighboring systems)
Major factions are these three
- Alliance
- Empire
- Federation
So here's your first mistake: Minor factions do not become major factions, they are either part of one (like Patron's Principles) or they are not (independents).
Second one: There never really was a minor faction that was raised to a power yet. Powers are apparently representing one individual person, not an entire faction. It's Denton Patreus, not Patron's Principles that the power is called.
Powers are the currently 10 individuals with a large number of followers. They expand and exploit nearby systems. This does simply not apply to minor or major factions, and certainly not to any player group that only goes to user submitted galnet articles and a teamspeak server. Most importantly, powers disrupt each other. And also you can only be pledged to one power. I wonder how many AAs are currently pledged to another power - another key difference.
So good for you, you had a galnet article. But I don't see you on the power panel.
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AA members are completely unaligned from all powers. This was the reason for our announcement. There are a VERY small number of play groups who are influential in this game and they get into the galnet news all the time because they spend the time and energy in this game to make differences. Being over critical isn't helping anything. AA has been doing this for a very long time.
In lore we broke off of a classified joint operations group in 3200 after the last Thurgoid mothership was destroyed.
I agree. I recall an interview with Braben where he said they wouldn't offer any support for player run "guilds", and yet here in Galnet is basically a recruiting poster for AA - to my mind it comes very close to support. If there has been a change in the policy people would like to know, so everyone and their mother can submit a Galnet article for their guilds to be converted into in-game powers.
LOL, I really had no idea. But if FD decides to put this in Galnet perhaps this means they are considering creating a new Power based upon what these players are doing.
But it has not prevented many groups from stating their intentions...outside the game....to aspire to do so. The fact that AA has taken the step to announce within the game (something I am uncertain any other PG has decided to do...since there is a very large chance of failure) is ballsy to say the least. Props to them for taking the step. Props to Fdev for letting them.
AA is a very ballsy/progressive group and for our size we're an extremely effective one who only recruits the upper crust of the PvP crowd. We've been working on changing the Galaxy in our own way for a very long time now. Thanks for the props, rep to you!
There has been player AND group generated news in game since launch. Where have you been? or are you new?
I am not new, to answer your bid to be facetious. And you are correct, there has been plenty of player submitted news.
With their requirements I certainly hope they DON'T become a power, not if they're requiring all members to use TeamSpeak. All players should be able to join not have some list of requirements. That's what makes the current NPC based power setup desirable over guilds - they are open to anyone to join and all that's required is to be able to play the game.